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Putting 40 lbs of weight on and still being agile takes years. Plus 22 year old vs 18 year old is big time difference in the trenches. BYU has older players due to their 3 year mandatory out reach program. Biggest reason they can stay relevant every year IMO. Gotta have the body, talent, and mentality to be a high end D1 lineman.
Young Latter Day Saint men are encourage to serve for 2 years after 18 th birthday and high school graduation. A few years ago, the age was 19 and Korey Pence played for us, and enrolled after his mission as a 21 year old freshman. He enrolled in the spring as he had a fall birthday and played as a true freshman OL primarily that year on FG unit, but some LT.
 

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I have heard the "partial qualifier" rule of the past that helped Nebby mentioned a lot.

Can someone explain what that rule was, and why it disproportionately helped Nebraska (as opposed to other colleges?) -- and when did it end?
 

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This has been discussed before, by people who know more about it than me, but what has REALLY killed Nebraska is the end of the "partial qualifier" rule. Along with abandoning decades of recruiting ties when they joined the B1G. Combine those with the retirement of Saint Thomas of Osborn, and you have the program we see today.

Plus they used to have the advantage of being one of a handful of teams on TV every weekend. Now even MAC teams are so they lost that advantage too.
 

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I have heard the "partial qualifier" rule of the past that helped Nebby mentioned a lot.

Can someone explain what that rule was, and why it disproportionately helped Nebraska (as opposed to other colleges?) -- and when did it end?
Probably off on specifics but it was for kids that didn't completely qualify academically for D1 universities. I think they had to sit out until they proved after a year they could cut it academically. Someone else older than me could probably explain it better.
 
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I have heard the "partial qualifier" rule of the past that helped Nebby mentioned a lot.

Can someone explain what that rule was, and why it disproportionately helped Nebraska (as opposed to other colleges?) -- and when did it end?
Basically, if a kid coming out of high school didn’t have the necessary credits to qualify for eligibility, they could take a redshirt year to get everything in order. The Big 8 was the only major conference to allow partial qualifiers, though I’m not sure every school did. Partial qualifiers had a choice between JUCO and a very few major schools that could or would take them in an era where JUCO transfers weren’t really a thing.

When the Big 12 formed, Nebraska was the only school that wanted to keep the old Big 8 rules - even Texas and Oklahoma wanted to up the requirements. If I’m not mistaken, Nebraska’s final recruiting class with partial qualifiers got smoked by Miami in their final games as seniors in the 2001 National Championship Game, which I’m sure is just an AMAZING coincidence that they haven’t been anywhere close to back since.
 
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Dont forgot that Scott Frost was hiding in the apartment closet while Lawerence Phillips beat up his ex girlfriend. I have zero idea what would have happened if Scot came out of that apartment closet the night Lawerence went crazy.
 

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From the 1st page to the last of this thread....it's like watching The Office w/o Steve Carell...it really takes a swandive..
 
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Dont forgot that Scott Frost was hiding in the apartment closet while Lawerence Phillips beat up his ex girlfriend. I have zero idea what would have happened if Scot came out of that apartment closet the night Lawerence went crazy.
Sorry to keep going with it, but I have to. Nebraska is classy man, come on, what could have possibly went wrong? Lawrence Phillips was a stand-up guy, it's not like he killed a bunch of people...nevermind.
 

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Nebraska and Doctor Tom have high standards, and they have produced some awesome running backs. I think Mike Rozier is the ultimate standout, haven't heard anything bad about him. Their first Heisman Winner http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...er-johnny-rodgers-receives-pardon-1970-holdup was a stand up guy. And then we have Scott Baldwin, Thunder Collins, and then Lawrence Phillips. That's just the running backs, we won't talk about the defense (Peters brothers), amongst many others. I could go on and on and point out the fine upstanding humanitarians they've had at different positions representing that fine upstanding Institution.
 
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Their walk-on program is no longer a difference-maker since dozens of the best in-state players getting booster-funded “academic” scholarship no longer escapes scrutiny.
When I first moved to Omaha I heard talk of this, how small towns used to pay the tuition for "walk ons" so they could help their beloved Huskers. I suppose that was before tuition costs skyrocketed.
 

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Basically, if a kid coming out of high school didn’t have the necessary credits to qualify for eligibility, they could take a redshirt year to get everything in order. The Big 8 was the only major conference to allow partial qualifiers, though I’m not sure every school did. Partial qualifiers had a choice between JUCO and a very few major schools that could or would take them in an era where JUCO transfers weren’t really a thing.

When the Big 12 formed, Nebraska was the only school that wanted to keep the old Big 8 rules - even Texas and Oklahoma wanted to up the requirements. If I’m not mistaken, Nebraska’s final recruiting class with partial qualifiers got smoked by Miami in their final games as seniors in the 2001 National Championship Game, which I’m sure is just an AMAZING coincidence that they haven’t been anywhere close to back since.


Nebraska was the only school in the conference to use it until Snyder got KState to change when he took over. When the Big 12 was formed the Texas schools led by UT citing academic standards were 100% against partial qualifiers as were the other 6 in the Big 8. That set the stage for Nebby's hate for UT from day one.
 

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Nebraska was the only school in the conference to use it until Snyder got KState to change when he took over. When the Big 12 was formed the Texas schools led by UT citing academic standards were 100% against partial qualifiers as were the other 6 in the Big 8. That set the stage for Nebby's hate for UT from day one.

Speaking of UT hate, have any Husker fans (or other white knights for them) blamed UT for their winless season this year? Seems like any misfortune that happens to Nebby gets them to blame UT.
 
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Ok need help have a Nebraska fan trying to talk junk that ISU is a fool for paying SDSU and is proud Neb isnt paying. (typical Nebraska fan) I have done research and it seems every cancelled game has been paid out. Can anyone find another school so chumpy that they didnt pay out. He also tried to brag about big 10 Tvnetwork payin 50 million to big 12 25 million


You can say that we spent less for SDSU and IW than they have for Bethune Cookman. We will have spent 725k and they are paying 800k and have agreed to some travel expenses for Akron at minimum.
 
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Young Latter Day Saint men are encourage to serve for 2 years after 18 th birthday and high school graduation. A few years ago, the age was 19 and Korey Pence played for us, and enrolled after his mission as a 21 year old freshman. He enrolled in the spring as he had a fall birthday and played as a true freshman OL primarily that year on FG unit, but some LT.

I graduated HS with Kory just a bit longer than "a few years ago." Thanks for making me feel slightly younger for a moment. :cool:
 

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I graduated HS with Kory just a bit longer than "a few years ago." Thanks for making me feel slightly younger for a moment. :cool:

I was family friends and knew Kory when he was 12 on through playing at ISU. He had two offers out of high school that he considered seriously. One was ISU, and one was BYU. He chose ISU to be close to his family so they could watch his games. Of course it is hard not to notice a 12 year old who is over 6 foot tall and pretty close to 200 pounds, but not fat. Played a lot of pickup BB with Kory during his high school years. He was faster than he looked.
 

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I saw the scroll of the Michigan score, and assumed they were playing Nebraska State.

TIL, it was in fact, NU.
 

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This has been discussed before, by people who know more about it than me, but what has REALLY killed Nebraska is the end of the "partial qualifier" rule. Along with abandoning decades of recruiting ties when they joined the B1G. Combine those with the retirement of Saint Thomas of Osborn, and you have the program we see today.

IMO the modern TV contracts have played a huge roll in killing off Nebby football. Back when there were only like 5 channels that carried college games, Nebraska could walk into the living room of a recruit in CA or FL and guarantee the family that they could watch their kid on ABC every Saturday. That is obviously no longer a huge advantage.
 

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I was family friends and knew Kory when he was 12 on through playing at ISU. He had two offers out of high school that he considered seriously. One was ISU, and one was BYU. He chose ISU to be close to his family so they could watch his games. Of course it is hard not to notice a 12 year old who is over 6 foot tall and pretty close to 200 pounds, but not fat. Played a lot of pickup BB with Kory during his high school years. He was faster than he looked.

That's Kory, always was the biggest kid in the class growing up. Very strong and more athletic than a lot of people gave him credit for. Also an outstanding human being overall. The Pences are good people.
 
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The big conversation during the second half of the Michigan game was if they could sell out the Bethune Cook or whatever game to keep their record alive.