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CloneState1028

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jdoggivjc

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edr247

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Sadly, for all the fans of teams that beat up on the Gophers, this will likely be Brewster's final year. Unless he can turn it around...which given last weeks performance, and this year's schedule, will be hard to do.
 

cyclone13

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I was @ the stadium last Saturday and you could literally feel the manifestation of "the silence is deafening" most of the second half.

Problem with Brewster was he talked extremely big when he got hired that he'd take the Gophers to the Rose Bowl, etc. Now they have a senior quarterback and the offense should be good because this is Brewster's recruiting class as he has already compiled 4 seasons.

Well, even Ted Roof preferred Chizik to Brewster :)

U is having a problem: the President is retiring next year and the AD (Maturi) has been widely critized for hiring Brewster and Tubby (who hasn't shown anything yet as of now). But sometimes the situation reminds me of our situation: fans wanted something more - that's why they canned Glen Mason - and is this what they get ? New stadium with an inferior product ?
 

edr247

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I was @ the stadium last Saturday and you could literally feel the manifestation of "the silence is deafening" most of the second half.

Problem with Brewster was he talked extremely big when he got hired that he'd take the Gophers to the Rose Bowl, etc. Now they have a senior quarterback and the offense should be good because this is Brewster's recruiting class as he has already compiled 4 seasons.

Well, even Ted Roof preferred Chizik to Brewster :)

U is having a problem: the President is retiring next year and the AD (Maturi) has been widely critized for hiring Brewster and Tubby (who hasn't shown anything yet as of now). But sometimes the situation reminds me of our situation: fans wanted something more - that's why they canned Glen Mason - and is this what they get ? New stadium with an inferior product ?

This.

Brewster should have his recruits setup in his system by now. Instead, they've been stuck in a rut, and seem to be incapable of finding any sort of rhythm. He's also had issues off the field.

In 2007, in Brewster's first year, the Gophers went 1-11. It was understandable as it was a coach's first year and usually teams do poorly when coaches and systems change. Plus, if they had won 50% of their close games (games decided by fewer than 7 points), they would have finished the year at 3 to 4 wins. Not fantastic, but still.

In 2008, things looked great, as they jumped out to a 7-1 season, before losing their four conference games, along with their bowl game. This included a 55-0 drubbing at the hands of the Hawkeyes in their final game at the Dome.

In 2009, they didn't have a hot streak going, but they could never beat the better teams in the conference, losing to Wisconsin, Iowa, OSU and Penn State.

This year, they started off okay, with a close win against Middle Tennessee State, but lost an absolute shocker to FCS opponent South Dakota. And now they'll face USC, OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nortwestern and Iowa.

On top of this, they've yet to win a single trophy (be it a rivalry trophy or a bowl game trophy). They've had close losses to Wisconsin, and been held scoreless against Iowa the past two games. They lost the Little Brown Jug to Michigan, and thanks to the rotation, might not get to play "bad Michigan". They also haven't been able to win the Governor's Bell against PSU. All in all, they just can win "the big games".

It should be noted, however, that Brewster and Gophers also have to contend with several hot years for the Big Ten. OSU and PSU were dominant early in Brewster's career, but Iowa and Wisconsin have been on the rise. Northwestern is showing a glimmer of hope, Purdue was just a few wins away from a bowl last year and Michigan is perhaps on the rise, or very close to it. Michigan State is always dangerous, and are themselves close to breaking into the 'upper tier'. Nebraska will be coming in next year. Not good news for the Gophers.
 

weR138

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I was @ the stadium last Saturday and you could literally feel the manifestation of "the silence is deafening" most of the second half.

Problem with Brewster was he talked extremely big when he got hired that he'd take the Gophers to the Rose Bowl, etc. Now they have a senior quarterback and the offense should be good because this is Brewster's recruiting class as he has already compiled 4 seasons.

Well, even Ted Roof preferred Chizik to Brewster :)

U is having a problem: the President is retiring next year and the AD (Maturi) has been widely critized for hiring Brewster and Tubby (who hasn't shown anything yet as of now). But sometimes the situation reminds me of our situation: fans wanted something more - that's why they canned Glen Mason - and is this what they get ? New stadium with an inferior product ?

And Mason was doing a decent job correct? Wasn't his firing kind of a head scratcher? I didn't know Minn fans were unhappy w/ Tubby.
 

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I will be betting that Minn covers the spread. The USC D has let teams play with them this year and the offense they had against VA wasn't that special. I don't expect MN to win but the spread is looking like a decent bet.
 

CyCloned

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The Gophers lost a bunch of really good defensive player last year, I think a couple are in the NFL now. Also lost a couple of outstanding receivers. They were much better last year than this year, as they appear to be on a train wreck course now. Surprising how poorly Brewster has been there. I think he actually had a top 20 recruiting class in there somewhere.
 

edr247

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And Mason was doing a decent job correct? Wasn't his firing kind of a head scratcher? I didn't know Minn fans were unhappy w/ Tubby.

He was fired because he wasn't taking Minnesota to 'the next level'. They were going to bowls, but had only won 3. They also placed no higher than tied for 4th in the Big 10.
 

cyclone13

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And Mason was doing a decent job correct? Wasn't his firing kind of a head scratcher? I didn't know Minn fans were unhappy w/ Tubby.

Compared to Brewster, Mason is doing a great job LOL.
Minny's athletic budget is still one of the smallest in the Big 10 (according to Sid Hartman, long time Startribune columnist, the football spending is actually the last in the big 10). Mason knew how to do things: schedule cupcakes in the first 4 games to get ranked in the top 25. beat Purdue and/or Indiana and/or Northwestern and hopefully get something against the others. Of course it doesn't make sense in the long run: people are tired of going to toilet bowls but if the fans have the choice, they might want Mason back in a second.

With Tubby: he hasn't really delivered yet. With his massive salary and constant rumor of him going to another school, it gets tiresome. Rumors that have been circulating are he wants a new practice facility but he'll have to wait for baseball facility.
 

CYKID

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How many batteries does it take to shock a Gopher fan?

Just 1 AA.


Much funnier when it isn't about us.
 

ISU_phoria

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ISU & Minnesota's football programs have been near mirror images of each other over the past 12 or so years. I think McCarney was hired a year or two before Mason, both of those coaches made the programs significantly better (regular bowl games and a few bowl wins), but neither could get their respective programs to the "next level" of upper tier bowls and high finishes in the conference. For that reason, both coaches were "replaced".

Chizik & Brewster were hired the same year and they won 3 and 1 games respectively their first years. Brewster had a better second year than Chizik (7 wins vs 2 wins), Chizik headed off to the plains of 'Bama. ISU got another new coach and both teams won 6 games in the regular season last year and faced off in another "lower level" bowl game, which was decided by 1 point. This year both teams are 1-1 (each having a very ugly loss in the 2nd game, but for different reasons) and I saw a stat that they have 2nd & 3rd toughest schedules in the nation this year.

It just can't get much more similar than that. I think fans from both sides think their own program should be "much better" than the other school, but the fact is they seem to be on very similar paths and only time will tell if that changes anytime soon.
 

CyCloned

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It just can't get much more similar than that. I think fans from both sides think their own program should be "much better" than the other school, but the fact is they seem to be on very similar paths and only time will tell if that changes anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

In reality the Gophers have a much better history than ISU, but history can only do so much for a program, and if it is history from 15 years ago, it doesn't do much good at all. 10 years ago it looked like the Clones were heading in the right direction, and look how many stumbles have occurred since then.

In the end, all I can say is that if Cizik was a bad hire, well, we could have done worse.:confused::mad::shocked::swoon:
 

CTTB78

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There are similarities between us and MN, but one big difference. They are the only school in the state. If Iowa can recruit, MN should be able to do as well even if their signing bonuses are not as big as Iowa's.

The other difference is that their fans to not support them like ISU fans do the Cyclones.
 

jdoggivjc

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In reality the Gophers have a much better history than ISU, but history can only do so much for a program, and if it is history from 15 years ago, it doesn't do much good at all. 10 years ago it looked like the Clones were heading in the right direction, and look how many stumbles have occurred since then.

In the end, all I can say is that if Cizik was a bad hire, well, we could have done worse.:confused::mad::shocked::swoon:

No kidding - there were a few fans 4 years ago that wanted JP to hire Brewster :err: