Milan Rumors - Hand Injury

madguy30

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Lol, becuase of 1 loss in Mamhattan? Go back and look at the schedule, they had won 4 in a row before that.

On Torvick they had game scores of 78, 97, 94, and 87 in the 4 games prior. That's hardly playing bad.

JFC I'M not the one saying they were playing bad.

The season is a grind and because the wins weren't blow outs people on here were thinking the team was tired, and then after the one loss at KSU there were mini-meltdowns.
 

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A UNI fan on this board (I forget your name, sorry UNI fan) was asked recently how Heise looks compared to last year, and they said he was about what they expected at ISU, said his scoring/shooting stats were somewhat deceptive because he scored a lot of easy baskets on plays designed to get him an easy shot near the basket.

I never watched him before this year, so what do I know, but I'm still really surprised by his three-point shooting. Last year he shot almost 36% on 4.1 attempts per game, that's quite good, well above "average" for a division 1 guard. The MVC is not the Big 12 but that ability should transfer much better than it has.

He has good hops and I wish there were a way to get him to the hoop to get going a bit.
 

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A UNI fan on this board (I forget your name, sorry UNI fan) was asked recently how Heise looks compared to last year, and they said he was about what they expected at ISU, said his scoring/shooting stats were somewhat deceptive because he scored a lot of easy baskets on plays designed to get him an easy shot near the basket.

I never watched him before this year, so what do I know, but I'm still really surprised by his three-point shooting. Last year he shot almost 36% on 4.1 attempts per game, that's quite good, well above "average" for a division 1 guard. The MVC is not the Big 12 but that ability should transfer much better than it has.
Yes. I don't watch UNI that much either, other than if they make the tournament, but it's what I suspected was the case. Which still remains a mystery to me now, but one that T.J. and staff need to resolve, even after Milan comes back.
 
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Lipsey's been a walking injury and has a fractured thumb, and Gilbert appears to have a lingering leg injury. Neither of those have anything to do with getting tired, just luck.

Cujo just looks like he's lost his mojo and is getting guarded differently.

And, the three together don't seem to be a good fit on the court for long stretches which seems to limit things more.
Cujo is regressing to the mean. He was playing at a really high level for a long period of time so I think we all thought he had a substantially higher mean. Who would have thought that his statistical regression would happen so fast. He should improve again.

Conversely, I also hope that Heise progresses to his mean in the 3 point shooting department. He seems to square his shoulders pretty well and his follow through seems good. Hopefully, they start dropping.
 

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I just don't get the Heise thing. How can you go from UNI's leading scorer to someone that looks allergic to the ball? He's not even trying to score at this point. Even with Milan back, we're going to need him to find his confidence if we're going to make a run in March.
In my eyes it’s purely a confidence thing right now. All in his head. And you’re right we do need him to be what he was towards the beginning of the year. We need Chatfield to be what he was as well.
 

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Yes. I don't watch UNI that much either, other than if they make the tournament, but it's what I suspected was the case. Which still remains a mystery to me now, but one that T.J. and staff need to resolve, even after Milan comes back.
Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but I can't help but wonder if instead of blowing up the whole rotation when Milan went out, we kept everything the same and just said "okay Nojus, next man up and you're the closest thing we have here." But I'm no genius, TJ for sure considered this option or other similar ones and had reasons for not doing it.
 
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In my eyes it’s purely a confidence thing right now. All in his head. And you’re right we do need him to be what he was towards the beginning of the year. We need Chatfield to be what he was as well.
Agree. When you only get 2-3 shots per game, it's really hard to get into a rhythm. Especially for a guy who had a completely different role with his previous team.
 

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I just don't get the Heise thing. How can you go from UNI's leading scorer to someone that looks allergic to the ball? He's not even trying to score at this point. Even with Milan back, we're going to need him to find his confidence if we're going to make a run in March.
That's the frustrating part I keep coming back to too. It's not like he was just some guy filling it up on a run-and-gun team where everyone playing meaningful minutes averaged double-figures, he was the leading scorer on a team that only had three guys score in double-figures and only five guys average more than 5 ppg. It's got to be a mental thing, he's better talent-wise than he's shown.
 
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A UNI fan on this board (I forget your name, sorry UNI fan) was asked recently how Heise looks compared to last year, and they said he was about what they expected at ISU, said his scoring/shooting stats were somewhat deceptive because he scored a lot of easy baskets on plays designed to get him an easy shot near the basket.

I never watched him before this year, so what do I know, but I'm still really surprised by his three-point shooting. Last year he shot almost 36% on 4.1 attempts per game, that's quite good, well above "average" for a division 1 guard. The MVC is not the Big 12 but that ability should transfer much better than it has.

I am hopeful that Heise's struggles are all between the ears. So not so much he is over-matched but needs a couple good games and all is good. He still plays solid defense and hustles on the boards, so I still feel he is an asset once Momcilovic returns.
 

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I am hopeful that Heise's struggles are all between the ears. So not so much he is over-matched but needs a couple good games and all is good. He still plays solid defense and hustles on the boards, so I still feel he is an asset once Momcilovic returns.
Right on. Maybe like we are all hoping will happen for the whole team, Milan and his "guard me on the perimeter or else" effect will open up some things for Heise too. He's certainly having to take more difficult shots than he would with Milan spreading the floor (hypothetically, if he ever shot).
 

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Obviously getting Milan will help. But I don't feel he the cure all for the struggles on offense. Opposing coaches have adjusted, so now is time for our coaches to adjust.

It's more about TJ & staff making changes to get quality shots for Gilbert, Jones, Jefferson & Jackson to re-ignite our offense. Than Milan returning. Just seems like the last few games, we've been forced into a high rate of tough/contested 2 point shots. And we aren't focused on getting fastbreak points, but settling for bully ball.
 
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i will never buy the fatigue excuse, unless its something like the Big 12 tournament where you may play 3 games in 3 days or, now, 4 games in 4 days.
I agree with you, but I think its fair to wonder if Monday night's putrid shooting had something to do with a West Coast road trip followed by 2 games in 3 days in different cities. As many have said we'll know if there are more concerning problems in the next couple of weeks. Absolutely no excuses going forward.
 

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I hope Milan will be able to handle all the pressure that is being put on him to save the team as soon as he returns
 

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That's the frustrating part I keep coming back to too. It's not like he was just some guy filling it up on a run-and-gun team where everyone playing meaningful minutes averaged double-figures, he was the leading scorer on a team that only had three guys score in double-figures and only five guys average more than 5 ppg. It's got to be a mental thing, he's better talent-wise than he's shown.
Big adjustment going from playing over 32 mpg to about 18 and now fewer. Also different having probably no one you defer to on taking shots to needing to defer to multiple guys at all times.

It's a very different role on a very different team. Sometimes guys adjust and thrive, sometimes guys struggle.
 
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Obviously getting Milan will help. But I don't feel he the cure all for the struggles on offense. Opposing coaches have adjusted, so now is time for our coaches to adjust.

It's more about TJ & staff making changes to get quality shots for Gilbert, Jones, Jefferson & Jackson to re-ignite our offense. Than Milan returning. Just seems like the last few games, we've been forced into a high rate of tough/contested 2 point shots. And we aren't focused on getting fastbreak points, but settling for bully ball.
Overall the offense has been good we’ve just had a few bad games. I’m not writing those off but I think a lot can be said regarding to the circumstances. Lose an absolute heartbreaker to one of the hottest teams in the country which looks to have carried over into the next game. Then you go play a very good defensive team in one of the toughest arenas in the country.

Teams have adjusted to how we’ve had to play without our best shooter. We need to make some tweaks but I think a majority of it comes down to limiting careless turnovers, Heise and Chat getting back to themselves and overall just playing with confidence and having fun.