Matt Campbell and Iowa State

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After Brock wins the Super Bowl there will be a 30 for 30 about "Mr Irrelevant" and then Iowa State and Campbell will get A LOT of play.

Brock's superbowl is this weekend. Calling it now, but if SF beats Philly, they win it all.

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The Conference finals are always the best games because the goal is to make the SB and the SB, unlike these games actually has less pressure. The older players know how hard it is to get to the SB and for many it may be their only shot. Younger players like Purdy don’t feel that pressure. I’m leaning toward the visitors in both games as Burrows at 3-0 is in the Chiefs head and both home teams will be expected to win. So, SF vs Cinncy in the SB & Burrows wins the SB. Joe Cool to Chase is the difference.
 

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49ers are loaded on defense with a lot of offensive weapons. Brock is playing very well, but he did step into a sweet spot. I don't like pointing fingers, but I think the oline was the main cause if we're looking at reasons why there was a let down that last season with Brock.
 

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Brock is playing better than Jimmy G did. The players prior to Brock had the same players supporting them and did not perform like Brock has. Brock increased the velocity on his thrown passes by 5 mph over what he was at Iowa State. That is the big difference. Ball is arriving faster and Brock has always been pretty accurate. 49ers catching accurate passes in stride. Big plays.
 

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ISU football has to be as talked about in the national media as I have ever heard in my life right now. Most of it is due to Brock Purdy, but obviously Breece Hall and David Montgomery have helped.

I have a mixed emotion when they talk about Purdy and how he has improved. Seems like more of a compliment to the 9ers coaching staff (likely much deserved) but also maybe a small slight to the coaching he got at Iowa State? I am probably reading way too much into this.....

That being said, glad CMC is at ISU. He and his staff have done wonders....
Typically the higher compensated professional industry has higher level candidates to fill their roles. I think I felt bad about this, but it's the nature of HS < FCS < FBS < NFL
 
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Brock is playing better than Jimmy G did. The players prior to Brock had the same players supporting them and did not perform like Brock has. Brock increased the velocity on his thrown passes by 5 mph over what he was at Iowa State. That is the big difference. Ball is arriving faster and Brock has always been pretty accurate. 49ers catching accurate passes in stride. Big plays.
I think the 49ers have elevated incrementally since Brock came in. But honestly acquiring McCaffery was the game changer for them imo.

Where I don’t think Brock has gotten enough credit nationally, is his accuracy on short and intermediate throws. He has been lethal on those. There’s been chatter that he’s lucky more balls haven’t been picked trying to fit in tight windows. But, his accuracy on those throws are the reason the defenders have only been able to get a hand on them and not intercept them.

Also, he is light years ahead of his experience going through his progressions (a good O-line helps big time there). I’m a Broncos fan and Brock puts Wilson to shame at his ability to buy time and go through his progressions.
 

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I think the 49ers have elevated incrementally since Brock came in. But honestly acquiring McCaffery was the game changer for them imo.

Where I don’t think Brock has gotten enough credit nationally, is his accuracy on short and intermediate throws. He has been lethal on those. There’s been chatter that he’s lucky more balls haven’t been picked trying to fit in tight windows. But, his accuracy on those throws are the reason the defenders have only been able to get a hand on them and not intercept them.

Also, he is light years ahead of his experience going through his progressions (a good O-line helps big time there). I’m a Broncos fan and Brock puts Wilson to shame at his ability to buy time and go through his progressions.
Think some ( not all) of those throws that "he was lucky not intercepted" were tipped/redirected at the line and dbacks didn't have time to adjust to ball flight. Brock's quickness helps!
 

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No they don't!
They literally do. NFL players are the top 1% of athletes in the world. Every team has talent. Some teams have more talent than others, but literally there is talent everywhere
 

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They literally do. NFL players are the top 1% of athletes in the world. Every team has talent. Some teams have more talent than others, but literally there is talent everywhere
Yes, all teams have great talent relative to the talent Brock played with at Iowa State (or that anyone plays with in college). But with Samuel, Kittle, and McCaffery, the 49ers have Purdy surrounded by stars at every skill position, along with pretty good depth, a solid enough line, a great scheme, and a great defense. It's not a knock on Brock to say that he's in a perfect spot to be able to do this.
 
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Yes I have heard a lot of talk about "go where you can start/play/excel" rather than worry about being on the absolute best team. Playing time is more critical for a qb than any other position I believe.

I agree. However you have to make sure they are at least good enough to let you develop. See our and TOE OLine problem. Can't develop if your always running for your life and having to release super quick.
 
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I’d say that “improvement” has (far) less to do with the respective coaching staffs than the supporting cast on offense on each team.

ISU didn’t have a corresponding Trent Williams at LT, and the talent of the 49ers receiving corps goes a lot deeper than X and a couple of TE’s.

(I suppose Breece last year and McCaffrey this year are more or less a wash)
Purdy's work with QB Collective was huge. His mechanics changed pretty dramatically. He threw for a high completion percentage, but that was a lot of short stuff. His accuracy down the field and intermediate routes was fine, but not great. The zip and accuracy have really improved since ISU. He also developed a really bad habit at ISU. The OL play was poor enough that it was difficult to step up in the pocket, and lots of times when he could climb the pocket he didn't. His decision making of when to climb the pocket, when to get rid of it, when to escape the pocket have been so damn good.

Basically he was a really good QB in college that had a ton on his shoulders. He came through more than he didn't.

But he has really improved as a passer and a decision-maker. Yes, he's got a really good team around him. But the difference in rosters between the best and worst teams in the NFL is really small in the cap era. He's WINNING games, not managing games where the team wins.

And Breece in college vs. CMC in the NFL certainly aren't a wash. Before injury Breece looked like he might be the best RB on the planet. Breece vs. college defenses is a drastically bigger advantage than CMC vs. NFL defenses.
 

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Yes, all teams have great talent relative to the talent Brock played with at Iowa State (or that anyone plays with in college). But with Samuel, Kittle, and McCaffery, the 49ers have Purdy surrounded by stars at every skill position, along with pretty good depth, a solid enough line, a great scheme, and a great defense. It's not a knock on Brock to say that he's in a perfect spot to be able to do this.
I dont think its a knock at all, but I also think that Brock is doing way more than Jimmy G did, with the same variables of Oline, offensive weapons, and defense. This was a Jimmy G led 49ers team that got absolutely shellacked by the Chiefs in the regular season, and I believe the 49ers with Brock would win that game, and I'm also a die-hard chiefs fan lol
 

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How does the media miss that Matt Campbell and Iowa State have put two potential OROY in the NFL this season. Breece Hall and Brock Purdy. If this was a SEC or Big school and coach, they would be all over it. I for one, want to thank CMC.
I can see the connection to Brock, but what does Christian McCaffery have to do with Breece?

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Sure, Brock’s now going up against NFL defenses, but he’s really benifited from playing with a great oline, receiving core, and backs.

Hurts, Mahomes and Burrow don't have that? But the narrative with them isn't that they're just benefiting from being in the right system with the right weapons around them..... this is a terrible, tired take from non-experts.
 
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Brock Purdy made a great decision to come and play for Campbell.

He also got very lucky to have landed on the 49ers and then have not one but two starting quarterbacks ahead of him go down to injury.

Make no mistake the guy has earned his success, but sometimes things really fall into your lap.
But at the same time, he made sure he was prepared for the moment. Everyone in that organization commented on how hard he worked from day 1 and prepared as if it was his start even if he was only 3rd string. If he doesn't prepare himself like that they could very well had someone like Mayfield leading the team after a loss to Miami.
 
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Hurts, Mahomes and Burrow don't have that? But the narrative with them isn't that they're just benefiting from being in the right system with the right weapons around them..... this is a terrible, tired take from non-experts.
The Eagles have the best personnel surrounding their QB.
- Best OL by a considerable margin
- Brown and Smith are the most productive WR tandem
- Goedert is a top 10 TE
- Sanders and Gainwell are studs

I'd take the Bengals WRs over the 49ers any day. RBs are close. Everybody loves CMC for good reason, but Mixon is really good. 49ers have the edge at TE and OL.

Cheifs have a really good OL, the best TE, and Pacheco is playing well. Weakest WR group by a mile.
 

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Hurts, Mahomes and Burrow don't have that? But the narrative with them isn't that they're just benefiting from being in the right system with the right weapons around them..... this is a terrible, tired take from non-experts.
Exactly, if people don't think the Chiefs, Bengals and Eagles don't have a bunch of highly talented offensive weapons for their QBs to get the ball to don't know what they're talking about. Those offenses are LOADED! BUT, those QBs don't get the narrative that they just have to distribute the ball and not make mistakes because they are in the right system except for Brock. Even if Brock was a 5th round pick I think the narrative would be different for him, but being the last pick makes people feel like its got to be something, anything else besides his ability thats allowed him to play so well.
 

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