Matt Abdelmassih a new assistant?

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This is not the sportstalk matt - this is the 26 year St John's fellow.
 

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A little from column A, a little in column B. On many occasion the players were directed towards Lutz during a TO. However, when a TO was called and ISU had possession at their own basket, they went right to Fred and his bag of tricks.


Fred Hoiberg is good at everything he does. Everything. He has the gift. I'm sure he got as much out of Lutz as he needs. It would be nice to still have him around, but we all knew it wasn't forever.

Lutz was very active in practice; he took charge in many instances. He will be hard to replace, IMO.
Sure it wasn't "forever," I just assumed it would be for more than one year, unless he got a HC offer, which he didn't.
 

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People are freaking out way too much about X's & O's experience. I think it's safe to say that Fred will grow tremendously when he's able to watch previous games/situations and reflect on things that he could have done better in 10-11. There will likely be no time where he grows more as a coach, then from yr 1 to yr 2.

Also, I think we all know that he'll have a heck of a lot more talent and depth to work with going forward. His philosophy will match up much better with the roster in the coming two seasons.

You don't necessarily need a bench full of bald guys in order to win in b-ball. Fred is as intelligent as ANY coach in the NCAA and he won't be a liability very often from here on out.
 

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I think it's funny how when a lot of people talk about Lutz, it almost seems as if he was needed because Fred didn't know anything about basketball. He has been around the game for awhile and has been around some pretty good coaches. As far as X's and O's he will be fine. I think Lutz was brought in more for the behind the scenes stuff. I would think Fred has learned a lot of that and I think it is reflected in his two hires that he believe that one year was at least close to enough for him to understand most of the ins and outs.
 

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There were a handful of times he'd defer to Lutz last year during timeouts. He just doesn't have the coaching experience but I'm sure he'll learn quickly and be a solid X & O's guy eventually. It just would be nice if he had some help over the next couple of years.

A lot of coaches, including some who have been headcoaches for decades consult with their assistants before going into the huddle. This is not a cause for panic. I would prefer that a coach uses the perceptions and experience of all his men on the bench before formulating the course forward. Many times assistant coaches (and yes, even players who have never coached!) can provide an insight that is valuable in attacking the opposition. Bill Fennelly admitted that he relied on Aus quite a bit her senior year, and she had no coaching experience.

It would be great to have Bobby for another year or two, but Fred is damn smart and he knows the game of basketball. He will have learned a lot in the past year and he is humble enough to know and search out what he needed. He will make mistakes, but every coach does even at the end of a long, long career. I think it is time for him not worry about another head coach on the bench but just fill the vacancy as best he can, perhaps with an experienced career assistant.
 

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A lot of coaches, including some who have been headcoaches for decades consult with their assistants before going into the huddle. This is not a cause for panic. I would prefer that a coach uses the perceptions and experience of all his men on the bench before formulating the course forward. Many times assistant coaches (and yes, even players who have never coached!) can provide an insight that is valuable in attacking the opposition. Bill Fennelly admitted that he relied on Aus quite a bit her senior year, and she had no coaching experience.

It would be great to have Bobby for another year or two, but Fred is damn smart and he knows the game of basketball. He will have learned a lot in the past year and he is humble enough to know and search out what he needed. He will make mistakes, but every coach does even at the end of a long, long career. I think it is time for him not worry about another head coach on the bench but just fill the vacancy as best he can, perhaps with an experienced career assistant.

Exactly. All head coaches in football and basketball (the 2 sports I watch) consult/confer with their assistants during crunch time. What do you think they are doing when in football they are constantly talking on the headphones? They are of course strategizing, which includes input from their subordinates.
 

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There were a handful of times he'd defer to Lutz last year during timeouts. He just doesn't have the coaching experience but I'm sure he'll learn quickly and be a solid X & O's guy eventually. It just would be nice if he had some help over the next couple of years.

I think Fred handed more over to Lutz than he needed to because he wanted to show he trusted him. Where Coach Lutz will be missed the most is running the scout team. I think TJ will start taking a more active roll on the bench as he is our top assistant. Now that we have another recruiter don't be surprised if that last spot isn't filled by a lower level experienced head coach.
 

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Fred's a real smart guy.
Fred's been around the game his whole life.

OMG, who's going to teach him the game?:eek:!
 
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could someone explain to me how a 26 year old that's 3/4 years out of college would have such a firm grasp on the northeast players like so many of you are implying?
 

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We have to remember that there's no way that TJ will stick around forever. Maybe Fred would prefer to develop Matt as an assistant and give him some experience. That way he can become our ace recruiter when TJ takes a big job. If we have some success if the next couple of years, it won't take long for TJ to get some calls.

Why not hire a guy that does not need to develop while he is one of our 3 assistants, like another TJ? There are not proven assistants with established recruiting and coaching results that we could get?

could someone explain to me how a 26 year old that's 3/4 years out of college would have such a firm grasp on the northeast players like so many of you are implying?

It is hard to believe he is the best option. There must be a few recruits this is specifically about.
 

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There were a handful of times he'd defer to Lutz last year during timeouts. He just doesn't have the coaching experience but I'm sure he'll learn quickly and be a solid X & O's guy eventually. It just would be nice if he had some help over the next couple of years.

Johnny Orr certainly knew his X's & O's, yet that didn't stop him from frequently deferring to Jim Hallihan during time outs. The key is to have the staff know their roles and be on the same page, not who does the talking during a time out.
 

Steve

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could someone explain to me how a 26 year old that's 3/4 years out of college would have such a firm grasp on the northeast players like so many of you are implying?

It might have something to do with his experience working summer camps at places like Kansas, North Carolina, and UCLA. You don't get invited into places like that if you don't have something to offer. The camp circuit is probably one of the best opportunities that there is to build contacts and relationships that can pay off in the recruiting department.

Matt's experience with the T-Wolves involved other areas that gave him an opportunity to understand the game. I especially like that he had responsibilities working directly with the coaching staff as well as performing free agent evaluations. I'm assuming that he has impressed Fred with his ability to both evaluate talent as well as to provide input on opponent game planning.
 

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It might have something to do with his experience working summer camps at places like Kansas, North Carolina, and UCLA. You don't get invited into places like that if you don't have something to offer. The camp circuit is probably one of the best opportunities that there is to build contacts and relationships that can pay off in the recruiting department.

Matt's experience with the T-Wolves involved other areas that gave him an opportunity to understand the game. I especially like that he had responsibilities working directly with the coaching staff as well as performing free agent evaluations. I'm assuming that he has impressed Fred with his ability to both evaluate talent as well as to provide input on opponent game planning.

If there's one thing the T'wolves are known for it's their great ability to evaluate talent.
 

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There were a handful of times he'd defer to Lutz last year during timeouts. He just doesn't have the coaching experience but I'm sure he'll learn quickly and be a solid X & O's guy eventually. It just would be nice if he had some help over the next couple of years.

Watching the Big Dance showed me that every single team in the tournament did the exact same thing at different time outs. Sometimes, your assistant has the plan and the words to say. A smart leader lets him do it.
 

CyJack13

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Watching the Big Dance showed me that every single team in the tournament did the exact same thing at different time outs. Sometimes, your assistant has the plan and the words to say. A smart leader lets him do it.

Also, watching the tournament you should see there's a hell of a lot of crappy college basketball coaches out there. The most important thing is getting coaches who can bring in talent. I'll take a staff full of guys who can recruit over x and o's guys everyday.