Magic eight - SI picks ISU as one of 8 that could win it all

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So, 5 losses in the NCAA tournament in 20 years. In three years Duke got beat by Mercer and Lipscomb in the first round. I don't hear them saying "We are Duke."

I consider Niang's injury as serious bad luck in a terrible time, and I'd consider the seeding and draw vs. MSU as really bad that very well prevented some great accomplishments for ISU basketball. The rest I don't really see that way at all.

Ohio State - an incorrect block/charge call that was REALLY hard to make in real time that kept a 10 seed ISU from the Sweet 16. Count me as skeptical that team was on the cusp of a magical run if they just got past that Ohio St. team. Much like the previous season, they were playing their best ball in March, but when you **** around and lose to bad teams in December and January, seeding is not going to be kind.

Hampton - That team was broken before the conference tourney. They weren't going anywhere if they get by Hampton. They were done.

Michigan St. - Momentum changing call goes Izzo's way. Every team that plays Izzo gets thoroughly bent over by officiating. There is no more favored coach in CBB in terms of officiating. Yes, this one really hurts because that was a great team that got screwed on seeding (which ended up in a bad location/draw). Plus seeing this was essentially a default National Championship game really sucks.

Niang's injury - yes, that's bad luck for sure, and who knows what happens after that. While ISU made a couple pushes to get close, UConn handled ISU that game. Georges would've made a difference for sure, but who knows if it would've been enough. Wierd game - Ejim was horrible and Hogue was played completely out of his mind.

UAB - that team was living on the edge all season. Coming out flat, getting down, making some crazy comeback and had a lot of pure luck to pull them out. It was only a matter of time when it bit them in the ass.

Thank you for putting an exclamation point on my statement. We have no reason to believe the hype. If it happens this year, great. But I see no reason to get all frothy thinking this is the year. I love this team as much as any other and hope they do well. I'll support them along the way and continue to make my annual donations. But, I'm realistic after years of being a fan. Keep your expectations low and you'll never be disappointed, again, redux.
 
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We were bad defensively that year. Not sure we had any serious media hype to win it

We absolutely did have serious media hype. We were one of a handful of sexy darkhorses. Prognosticators on all the networks including Chuck on TBS saw us as strong contenders for final four.
 
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We absolutely did have serious media hype. We were one of a handful of sexy darkhorses. Prognosticators on all the networks including Chuck on TBS saw us as strong contenders for final four.

Not to win it all like this article says. No bad defensive team has ever won a title IIRC
 

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Not to win it all like this article says. No bad defensive team has ever won a title IIRC

You don't get to just make sh*t up and tack an "IIRC" at the end of it. Stop lazily going off of memory and use the vast world of information at your fingertips. Same thing drives me nuts about the majority of your flamebait sh*t-posting. It's like reading an argument made by a 15-year old.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...l-championship-odds-and-dark-horse-contenders

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...wa-state-ohio-state-maryland-butler/24284259/
 

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You don't get to just make sh*t up and tack an "IIRC" at the end of it. Stop lazily going off of memory and use the vast world of information at your fingertips. Same thing drives me nuts about the majority of your flamebait sh*t-posting. It's like reading an argument made by a 15-year old.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...l-championship-odds-and-dark-horse-contenders

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...wa-state-ohio-state-maryland-butler/24284259/

Whoa. That seems to be uncalled for.

We were 99th in AdjD that year. Look at the AdjD of past teams that won a title. Defense wins titles in March

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It’s the tournament. I’d say it’s equal chances that we get upset 1st round or make the sweet 16. That’s how it goes. The only thing that anyone knows is you aren’t winning it if you aren’t playing in it.
 

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Whoa. That seems to be uncalled for.

We were 99th in AdjD that year. Look at the AdjD of past teams that won a title. Defense wins titles in March

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You're moving the goalpost per usual. Nobody would reasonably argue that we had a good defense that year. Your argument (your words) "Not sure we had any serious media hype to win it"

We did. I provided two links indicating such. There are more out there. You can dislike my post and all non-fanboy posts backed by facts that you want. Your act wears thin.
 

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We absolutely did have serious media hype. We were one of a handful of sexy darkhorses. Prognosticators on all the networks including Chuck on TBS saw us as strong contenders for final four.

I don't even think we were a darkhorse. We were a three seed in the region with the weakest one seed.
 
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I don't even think we were a darkhorse. We were a three seed in the region with the weakest one seed.

Agree to a degree. Darkhorse for championship may have been asking too much. Elite 8 or Final Four isn't a major stretch as a 3.

Losing the 3-14 the way it happened was deflating in itself, but I'm convinced we would've obliterated UCLA (or SMU, if controversial ending had gone differently in R64). After that, who knows .
 

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Matchups are always the biggest story of the tourney but for a team that plays small ball, its an even bigger deal. Other than Iowa, maybe KU, the teams we've lost to were teams that didn't necessarily play a 4 guard lineup but teams that could play smallish and matched our athleticism. Baylor, TCU and K State played tweener bigs at the 4 and more or less played more physical than we wanted to.

It would be really nice if we had some versatility to punish teams that can't match our bigs, especially in the tourney but it appears that this is how Prohm wants to go, not a complaint at all, just seems like reality. I think the injuries/suspensions etc...had a lot to do with that, he just didn't have much time to tinker with lineups due to big 12 play starting and guys like TH and THT playing so well you can't take them off the court. With that being the case, it's tough to say how far this team can go without seeing the other teams in our bracket.
 
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We absolutely did have serious media hype. We were one of a handful of sexy darkhorses. Prognosticators on all the networks including Chuck on TBS saw us as strong contenders for final four.
Cowherd LOVED us that year.