Leath

[ImJustKCClone]

President Leath is a great leader for Iowa State and the university is fortunate to have him.

He also is one of a handful of university presidents nationwide to have a 100% approval rating from university employees. (Sally Mason has 54% by the way, one of the lowest ratings in the nation.) http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/top-25-universities-work-2013/

I'd love to know how they came up with that rating, because I can guarandamteeya he doesn't have a "100% approval rating from university employees". I don't have hard numbers, but there are plenty of people on campus that are less than thrilled with his tenure.

 

[IcSyU]

I'd love to know how they came up with that rating, because I can guarandamteeya he doesn't have a "100% approval rating from university employees". I don't have hard numbers, but there are plenty of people on campus that are less than thrilled with his tenure.

Yep, every single one who knows their job is on the line with the Deloitte audit. The taxpayers will love that....the employees who are going to get canned won't.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Yep, every single one who knows their job is on the line with the Deloitte audit. The taxpayers will love that....the employees who are going to get canned won't.

From way before that, but nice try. Thanks for shopping; stop back.

 

[Incyte]

He cancelled a University event that nearly resulted in a student death. I can't criticize a man for that.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

He cancelled a University event that nearly resulted in a student death. I can't criticize a man for that.

He's kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet.

 

[CyBroncos]

He's kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet.

I still have yet to see a logical response from the people ****** off about this for options that the powers that be could have taken. Enlighten me

 

[Angie]

He's kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet.

Deaths, injuries, and property damage aren't blood I'd want on my hands, either. Would you? I don't mean that facetiously - could you live with yourself if you said, "Eh, let it go," and there were more murders, more riots? How do you explain that to the families of the people killed/injured/whose property was ruined?

He's not kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet. He's kicking the cat, and the dog just happens to have to also deal with the fallout.

 

[awd4cy]

He's kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet.

Well, I guess by kicking the dog, it's going to prevent the cat from peeing on the carpet. Had to be done.

 

[ISUCubswin]

I'm more upset my future kids won't be able to celebrate Veishea. I had an amazing time all 4 years I was at Iowa State and I can assure you I celebrated everything responsibly.

 

[GWad]

Actually its more the opposite. The 04 recommendations included *more* on campus events because if youre on campus you generally arent causing problems. That was awesome for awhile until they moved the concerts out into the middle of nowhere. That just leads to people being at the large house parties near campustown (hunt st, where both the 04 and 14 'riots' began)

What they should have done is ended the veishea "week" nonsense, made it officially a thurs-sun event, reexamined police procedure on breaking up large parties near campustown, etc. But it was clear from the start this 'task force' was a sham set up to kill veishea.

Or said another way "veishea was already dead before they set up the task force." As it needed to be.

 

[ISUCubswin]

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Deaths, injuries, and property damage aren't blood I'd want on my hands, either. Would you? I don't mean that facetiously - could you live with yourself if you said, "Eh, let it go," and there were more murders, more riots? How do you explain that to the families of the people killed/injured/whose property was ruined?

He's not kicking the dog because the cat peed on the carpet. He's kicking the cat, and the dog just happens to have to also deal with the fallout.

I have NEVER said "let it go". I have offered suggestions more than once, only to be met with the answer that "veishea is all about the parties, man..." That crowd could have been chanting HERPES HERPES but it wouldn't have made the criminal activities "all about STD's".

My thoughts:
Stop the night activities. Work in conjunction with ISU PD and Ames PD to manage the alcohol consumption and massing. Arrest people and make them PAY for the damages. Kick offending students out of school. Change the culture of drinking that permeates the student body...get the students involved in policing themselves. VEISHEA is about the colleges, about attracting donors & potential students with the variety of student activities and classroom disciplines. No matter how many times people say it, VEISHEA is NOT about the drinking. If someone thinks it is, that's on them, not on the organizers of VEISHEA and all of the students involved in the displays and family friendly campus events, who no longer have their celebration because a bunch of lameass drunks can't have fun without getting blottoed.

I'm done. I'm too ****** to keep commenting. Sorry I ended up blowing up on your post, Angie...I hope you accept my apology.

 

[CycloneErik]

Thousands of drunks would disagree. VEISHEA is only about the drinking.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Another issue was the Ames PD. The fact that they had the same amount of cops working on Tuesday night of Veishea as a normal Tuesday night is just stupid.

That's like having the same amount of cops for an Iowa State soccer match as you would for the Iowa-Iowa State football game.

 

[awd4cy]

Another issue was the Ames PD. The fact that they had the same amount of cops working on Tuesday night of Veishea as a normal Tuesday night is just stupid.

That's like having the same amount of cops for an Iowa State soccer match as you would for the Iowa-Iowa State football game.

There could have been double the cops that night and they still wouldn't have been able to contain the students from being idiots.

 

[IcSyU]

Another issue was the Ames PD. The fact that they had the same amount of cops working on Tuesday night of Veishea as a normal Tuesday night is just stupid.

That's like having the same amount of cops for an Iowa State soccer match as you would for the Iowa-Iowa State football game.

So you don't see any problem with Ames PD having to increase their presence on a Tuesday night because of a student event?

A football game is one thing. A Tuesday on the other hand?

It isn't just about riots. How many people have fallen from balconies to their deaths during VEISHEA recently? How many have shattered their legs jumping between balconies during VEISHEA? How many have been whacked with a phone pole during VEISHEA?

The death in the elevator shaft at Legacy was a fluke. Why is there some preventable death or tragedy every year during VEISHEA but magically the other 51 weeks of the year it's just alcohol offenses and other petty crap?

 

[Angie]

I have NEVER said "let it go". I have offered suggestions more than once, only to be met with the answer that "veishea is all about the parties, man..." That crowd could have been chanting HERPES HERPES but it wouldn't have made the criminal activities "all about STD's".

My thoughts:
Stop the night activities. Work in conjunction with ISU PD and Ames PD to manage the alcohol consumption and massing. Arrest people and make them PAY for the damages. Kick offending students out of school. Change the culture of drinking that permeates the student body...get the students involved in policing themselves. VEISHEA is about the colleges, about attracting donors & potential students with the variety of student activities and classroom disciplines. No matter how many times people say it, VEISHEA is NOT about the drinking. If someone thinks it is, that's on them, not on the organizers of VEISHEA and all of the students involved in the displays and family friendly campus events, who no longer have their celebration because a bunch of lameass drunks can't have fun without getting blottoed.

I'm done. I'm too ****** to keep commenting. Sorry I ended up blowing up on your post, Angie...I hope you accept my apology.

I understand where you're coming from, and it's a very idealistic attitude. I wish that we could fix things like the culture of drinking, and to put the focus back on the colleges. But the VEISHEA threads that started on here prior to that Tuesday night riot showed how that's just not the case among students - there were a lot more references to riots and getting hammered than there were to cherry pies and Stars Over VEISHEA.

Is there anything intrinsically wrong with partying in college? Of course not, unless you are harming other people or their property.

 

[Cyclonic1]

I mentioned in an email to Jaime on an unrelated that I thought Leath mishandled the Bubu situation. JP responded that they did the only right thing as they were privy to "inside information" that was not public. He even used the word immoral which makes me nervous as others are making moral judgements on my behalf. I will decide if and when something is immoral to me! But I suppose it's in their job descriptions.

 

[JP4CY]

I mentioned in an email to Jaime on an unrelated that I thought Leath mishandled the Bubu situation. JP responded that they did the only right thing as they were privy to "inside information" that was not public. He even used the word immoral which makes me nervous as others are making moral judgements on my behalf. I will decide if and when something is immoral to me! But I suppose it's in their job descriptions.

That's really, really bad that he said that. That is a massive can of worms.

 

[jbhtexas]

My thoughts:
Stop the night activities. Work in conjunction with ISU PD and Ames PD to manage the alcohol consumption and massing.

In a school of 30,000 students plus numerous folks traveling in, alcohol consumption cannot be managed over a longer term event to any meaningful level by the ISU PD and Ames PD.

Arrest people and make them PAY for the damages. Kick offending students out of school.

Hasn't this been done in the past?

Change the culture of drinking that permeates the student body.

This is the ultimate solution. IMO, this is a spiritual issue, and our present society doesn't permit its public institutions to meaningfully deal with such things. Hopefully that statement is limited enough to keep this out of the cave.

VEISHEA is about the colleges, about attracting donors & potential students with the variety of student activities and classroom disciplines. No matter how many times people say it, VEISHEA is NOT about the drinking.

The reality is that VIESHEA is about the drinking for enough of the students to make it a dangerous event, and it has been that way for at least 30 years.