"Just throw it deep"

carvers4math

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I swear the guy asking is also a Cyclone fan that call into CW's post game shows
Does not sound like Helmet Guy or Cyclone Larry/Jerry. Does anyone else call them that isn’t some guy driving to Fort Dodge? I miss when some kid used to call in.
 
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Does not sound like Helmet Guy or Cyclone Larry/Jerry. Does anyone else call them that isn’t some guy driving to Fort Dodge? I miss when some kid used to call in.

Ugh you're right I meant Cyclone Jerry.
 

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He's being ridiculously obtuse.

He doesn't like being questioned, especially when they are valid.

Penn State has only played 2 teams with a pulse.

His QB is sitting at 6.9 yards per attempt. That's getting into Hawkeye Land.

Any decent football team has a couple deep plays in the playbook.

Never liked this guy.
 

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Franklin's a doosh of the highest order, but he's right here, some dork sports writer who thinks he should be scheming the offense needs to be put in his place.

In my opinion he is wrong. High level coaches will take a shot even if it don’t work. It keeps the defense honest. Just like in MMA when you shoot for a double leg. Even if it don’t work it keeps the opponent knowing he has to respect that part of the game.
 

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What the #### is wrong to throw it deep when the other team has 11 men within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage? No, let's throw a 15 yard side line route for3 yards when you need 7 for a first down.
 

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What the #### is wrong to throw it deep when the other team has 11 men within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage? No, let's throw a 15 yard side line route for3 yards when you need 7 for a first down.
Coaches always love coming up with excuses for playing chicken **** football.

Turnovers loom so large to them that they prefer the safe, predictable, and ineffective play calling.

They forget that explosive plays can also slant the game in your favor, and have the added bonus of forcing your opponents to change their defensive philosophy.
 
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He's being ridiculously obtuse.

He doesn't like being questioned, especially when they are valid.

Penn State has only played 2 teams with a pulse.

His QB is sitting at 6.9 yards per attempt. That's getting into Hawkeye Land.

Any decent football team has a couple deep plays in the playbook.

Never liked this guy.

I think I mostly agree with this. It's becoming clear that PSU is going to have an issue if they ever need to score quickly.

If the reason for all of the short passes is because they can't throw deep they may lose 3 times this year.
 

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In my opinion he is wrong. High level coaches will take a shot even if it don’t work. It keeps the defense honest. Just like in MMA when you shoot for a double leg. Even if it don’t work it keeps the opponent knowing he has to respect that part of the game.

What other pass play do you tell your QB to go to one spot no matter what? He's not saying they shouldn't throw it to the deep routes, his problem is ignoring formations, alignments, audibles, progressions, etc. to get it there. That's the part that makes his skin crawl as a coach.
 

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What the #### is wrong to throw it deep when the other team has 11 men within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage? No, let's throw a 15 yard side line route for3 yards when you need 7 for a first down.
Most people don't know how to read safeties. If they're pressing and you have one on one I think it's fine to take a shot if you like your receiver in that match up.
 

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He's being ridiculously obtuse.

He doesn't like being questioned, especially when they are valid.

Penn State has only played 2 teams with a pulse.

His QB is sitting at 6.9 yards per attempt. That's getting into Hawkeye Land.

Any decent football team has a couple deep plays in the playbook.

Never liked this guy.
maybe that's what it takes to finally end this stupid question.

I read this exact sentiment weekly on here
 
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What other pass play do you tell your QB to go to one spot no matter what? He's not saying they shouldn't throw it to the deep routes, his problem is ignoring formations, alignments, audibles, progressions, etc. to get it there. That's the part that makes his skin crawl as a coach.

Sure, but that is the intentionally obtuse part of his answer. He picked out that specific point so he didn't answer the other basic part of the question (why hasn't there been more effort in throwing deep)

I get the angst. Penn St has a good football team but I don't think you can beat Ohio St or especially Michigan playing that way. It's like he watched Greg Davis coordinated Iowa games in the offseason and thought he'd like to try that.
 
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In my opinion he is wrong. High level coaches will take a shot even if it don’t work. It keeps the defense honest. Just like in MMA when you shoot for a double leg. Even if it don’t work it keeps the opponent knowing he has to respect that part of the game.
Yeah I just think there's a difference between planning for downfield attempts and a high-level coach being told to throw it deep by a sportswriter. I know their schedule hasn't been all that crazy yet but it's not like their offense is struggling.
 
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