If Rhoads had the same schedule in 2012 that Mangino had in 2007, I'm not so sure he wouldn't have taken ISU to a BCS bowl.
JUCO DE Larry Jefferson has also de-committed
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If Rhoads had the same schedule in 2012 that Mangino had in 2007, I'm not so sure he wouldn't have taken ISU to a BCS bowl.
My guess is we start emailing all the 1A and 2A schools at the end of the season asking if they have any players interested in playing football at Iowa State University.
Paul picked a very bad year to lose to KU and NDSU. Pretty much any angle you look at those two games, the team did not put out the effort that was expected, desired, needed. If we had won those two games, we would not be here today wondering when the world quit spinning. Being in the B12, we cannot take one game off. The next game will always be a challenge. Why we come out and play like there is always another game is fast ending as this season goes on. The last three games will be torture for the players. The train is still parked in the station. We now feel like the KU football fans have felt for a few years. Having Fred coaching next door does not make Paul's effort look better.
The sad part is the staff had a lot of momentum on the recruiting trail coming into this year with Ozigbo and then you grab those two DE recruits and an Oline guy with a bunch of offers. Come to think of it, I never did find out what the deal was with Nickelson. He was a guy with interest from everyone and their dog coming out of high school.
I suppose that depends on what side you're sitting on in this whole Rhoads debate. :twitcy:
I know of a few coaches that have had emails saying "hey, half our team just decided to quit last week and we need players, would anyone be interested?"
Iowa State will be the next team to do it.
Iowa State will be the next team to do it.
BDK, you were an embarrassment to Iowa State with your presence on the Bisonville site, but were somewhat tolerable on our site. Not any more. Added to Ignore list. Hope no one replies to you so I don't have to read your drivel.
The coaching staff actually does contact every school in the state, including 8-man schools. Basically they just collect names of guys who coaches claim could at the very least walk-on. My guess is a lot of Midwestern schools do something similar.
Kansas is going to be 1-8 in the big 12, just like last year. The fact they played us at the right time has little to do with their coaching change.
Difference is that Weis has not shown the ability to get KU anywhere. 25% of the bowl trips in our history are with Rhoads at the helm. In 122 years of football, we have been to 12 bowl games. Rhoads coached us to 3 of them.
Not saying he should or should not be fired. But Weis isn't a fair comparison.
We are the only fan base in the nation that, after losing 3 recruits in a week, would not see that as a bad sign. "Oh, I'm sure this had nothing to do with Iowa State and the week we had last week. Nope. Young man just had a different opportunity."
A big thing that concerns me is that Mangino has done zero improvement with this offense this year. I think it's better to start fresh.
Yes 4 & 5 * guys will always go to bigger, better programs to wait their turn then play. I was under the impression we're talking and JUCO guys, with limited time left, who are NOT ranked that high?
Of course good players like winning. Of course they want the added exposure & practice a bowl game brings. Our team was within 1 score of KSU & Texas. Do you really think a handful of JUCO guys don't see those games & think, 'hmm, I bet if they had me, xxxxx, & xxxxx they probably would have won those games'.
That's the mindset good players have. They think they can be the difference & actually make a team BETTER.
Point being, of course they want to win. I'd just wager that if you ask all 3* JUCO players, playing time & coach would be higher priorities.
Agree 100%. I am still in disbelief that a guy decommitted to take an offer from Texas... I mean losing a recruit to Texas? ******* really? Inexcusable and quite frankly embarrassing on every level.
Agree, Luth. Looking back at Mangino's career, it looks eerily similar to CPR, actually. Problem is we no longer get to avoid the powers in the conference (OU and Texas at that time). Plus, the league is MUCH better now, top to bottom.
Mangino at KU:
2002-2006. Was 25-35 overall, playing TERRIBLE non-conference schedules. Was 11-29 in conference with several lopsided losses.
2007. Lightning in a bottle. His best team went 12-1, 7-1 in conference. Terrible non-conference, avoided OU and Texas. Played the worst Nebraska team ever. Only good in-conference team played was Missouri and lost.
2008-09. Quickly started the return to being KU. 13-12 overall, 5-11 in conference. 2009 was 1-7 in conference (guess who was their only win?). Fired due to alleged disagreement with AD and treatment of players.
There's a reason he has not returned to the HC position after 5 years. Strongly disagree with him being put anywhere near a list that includes Briles, Snyder, Kelly, etc.
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Because our offense is better statistically than any point in the rhoads tenure. It may be hard to see because our defense is so bad. Look at the big 12 scoring offense standings pre-kansas with richardson. We havent had a middle of the pack in offense snice at least Danny Mac years.
If anyone truly thinks we can get a better coach than Mangino and have a shot at keeping him you are making a really low probablility bet. It may pan out but our best odds for success is probama right on our sideline. Plus it is our best shot of keeping existing talent like Lazard.
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