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Winning is the most important thing, not getting embarrassed on an almost weekly basis is a close second in my book.

Not to mention that there is a very real chance of getting injured playing for a team this bad as we have all witnessed, you're putting your good health on the line when you go out on the field for this team.
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I think for JUCOs, playing time is what they really look for. Play and play now, cause they generally only have those two years.

Which is what makes this a bit more disturbing. JUCO d linemen and LBs can damn near be declared starters before they even walk on campus. We have playing time available out the wazoo...
 
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Lol just fire him now. Can't win games, can't keep recruits anymore. Stick a fork in it. It's a shame because we were set up to have a good year next year, but he's lost the team.
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I hate coming to this conclusion, but it seems Rhoads is at the Danny Mac waypoint....read JP's quote from Dan's 'resignation' article on cyclones.com:

“Dan enthusiastically embraced his personal role and carried the responsibility with pride,” Pollard said. “For more than a decade, he has been the face of the Iowa State Athletics Department. However, it became clear to us recently that momentum in the program was slowing.”
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Take out that "for more than a decade" sentence (not a decade and he hasn't been the face of the AD since Hoiberg's return), and it seems like it could be talking about Rhoads. There's similarities in the rest of the article too:

http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=682268
 
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Rhoadhoused said:
Yeah but that uncertainty comes from the coach sucking not people pointing out the obvious fact that he's sucking.
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This is kind of how I feel about it. Kids aren't that dumb. Even if they believe the losses are just a passing thing, two crap seasons in a row has to have them thinking, "Will he be around when I get there?" Weather the fans are blasting on a message board or not.

It certainly plays a part, but let's not fluff up one part as the only part. This is a systemic problem right now. Losses lead to questions by fans and players. Those questions then lead to weather or not a coach is going to be around. Weather or not I had heard anything about the fans being upset at ISU or not, my first question to Rhoads would still be, "You still going to be here next year?" It has as much to do with the losses as any grumblings, because they all go together.

Now, because of our lack of football history, I believe if ISU were undefeated right now, there would probably still be the same question, "You going to be here next year?" But I have a feeling that the kids would be a little more excited to stick with their decision to come here.
 
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Anyone following recruiting knew this would happen once his friend decommited. He won't be the last. Should be fun!
 
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Probably wise for JP to wait for these next three games to finish and not let a few average recruits dictate anything. JP saying something publicly right now would unlikely change their minds.
 
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Tedcyclone said:
I have a feeling you may be right. Something just doesn't make sense.
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Didn't JP give McDermott that vote of confidence? And he may have even said something about Chiz's second season before he Chiz-dk'd him. Can't remember.
 
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I thought Rhoads had at least one more year but I agree with those who feel something is brewing behind the scenes. Like maybe someone is busy soliciting buyout money.

The next decommits coming are people who...you know...ALREADY PLAY FOR ISU. Then the writing really will be on the wall.
 
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I sure hope not.
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I realize message boards are the ideal place for drive-by comments, but do you care to explain what you mean? Why do you hope Mangino is not our next coach?

Mark Mangino took Kansas to a BCS bowl and won. Kansas. As in, the worst team in all of Power Five conference football. As in, the team that still had a track around their football field until the previous offseason. As in, the team we just lost to that was so embarrassing words can't even explain it.

K-A-N-S-A-S. BCS bowl champions. #2 ranked team in the country for a period of time. Mark Mangino built that.

If you can win at Kansas, you can literally win A-N-Y-W-H-E-R-E. Who else has built a school with absolutely no football history to speak of into a BCS bowl winner and a top two ranking? Who else is out there with PROVEN results on that scale?

Mark Mangino (Took Kansas to new heights.)
Bill Snyder
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State)
Art Briles (Baylor)
Rich Rodriguez (West Virginia and Arizona, both arguably have more advantages than Ames)
David Cutcliffe (Duke)
Randy Edsall (UConn, but that was more a joke of a conference.)
Brian Kelly (Cincinnati)

That's a pretty elite list of coaches. Yes, I know we could have had Brian Kelly, and he would've been gone as fast or faster than the Chiz. (And may have done better.)

Which one of those guys is standing on our sideline RIGHT NOW? Why would we not give him a shot? Art Briles is not walking through that door. Brian Kelly is not walking through that door. Dan Mullen is not walking through that door.
 
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Tre4ISU said:
Firing him now does no good. There is no upside to firing a coach right now.
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Wrong, but only if you believe Mangino could be the next guy and he could be made permanent coach now, no interim. Immediately set him loose on the recruiting trail. If you don't see losing three prime weeks of recruiting as a problem, I don't know what to tell you.

But if JP is not going to install Mangino permanently now, then yes, wait until the end of the season. An interim head coach is worse for recruiting than a lame duck head coach.
 
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ISUBrew said:
I realize message boards are the ideal place for drive-by comments, but do you care to explain what you mean? Why do you hope Mangino is not our next coach?

Mark Mangino took Kansas to a BCS bowl and won. Kansas. As in, the worst team in all of Power Five conference football. As in, the team that still had a track around their football field until the previous offseason. As in, the team we just lost to that was so embarrassing words can't even explain it.

K-A-N-S-A-S. BCS bowl champions. #2 ranked team in the country for a period of time. Mark Mangino built that.

If you can win at Iowa State, you can literally win A-N-Y-W-H-E-R-E. Who else has built a school with absolutely no football history to speak of into a BCS bowl winner and a top two ranking? Who else is out there with PROVEN results on that scale?

Mark Mangino (Took Kansas to new heights.)
Bill Snyder
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State)
Art Briles (Baylor)
Rich Rodriguez (West Virginia and Arizona, both arguably have more advantages than Ames)
David Cutcliffe (Duke)
Randy Edsall (UConn, but that was more a joke of a conference.)
Brian Kelly (Cincinnati)

That's a pretty elite list of coaches. Yes, I know we could have had Brian Kelly, and he would've been gone as fast or faster than the Chiz. (And may have done better.)

Which one of those guys is standing on our sideline RIGHT NOW? Why would we not give him a shot? Art Briles is not walking through that door. Brian Kelly is not walking through that door. Dan Mullen is not walking through that door.
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Fixed it for you.
 
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ISUBrew said:
I realize message boards are the ideal place for drive-by comments, but do you care to explain what you mean? Why do you hope Mangino is not our next coach?

Mark Mangino took Kansas to a BCS bowl and won. Kansas. As in, the worst team in all of Power Five conference football. As in, the team that still had a track around their football field until the previous offseason. As in, the team we just lost to that was so embarrassing words can't even explain it.

K-A-N-S-A-S. BCS bowl champions. #2 ranked team in the country for a period of time. Mark Mangino built that.

If you can win at Kansas, you can literally win A-N-Y-W-H-E-R-E. Who else has built a school with absolutely no football history to speak of into a BCS bowl winner and a top two ranking? Who else is out there with PROVEN results on that scale?

Mark Mangino (Took Kansas to new heights.)
Bill Snyder
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State)
Art Briles (Baylor)
Rich Rodriguez (West Virginia and Arizona, both arguably have more advantages than Ames)
David Cutcliffe (Duke)
Randy Edsall (UConn, but that was more a joke of a conference.)
Brian Kelly (Cincinnati)

That's a pretty elite list of coaches. Yes, I know we could have had Brian Kelly, and he would've been gone as fast or faster than the Chiz. (And may have done better.)

Which one of those guys is standing on our sideline RIGHT NOW? Why would we not give him a shot? Art Briles is not walking through that door. Brian Kelly is not walking through that door. Dan Mullen is not walking through that door.
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He took Kansas to a BCS game and won w/o playing OU or Texas that season. Heck, Danny Mac won a share of the conference championship in 2004 also w/o playing Texas or OU. Maybe we should give Danny Mac the keys again?

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