Damn, now you’ve got me wondering about the 44-48 loss to Drake the prior season - that stinker was one of only five losses that whole season. Was that actually a Eustachy-orchestrated motivational tool?
Jamaal Tinsley opinion..
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We weren't very good Hali's sophomore year but far from the worst. That was the next season. We all love Tyrese and he is a much better pro than Jamaal, but Tinsley won back-to-back Big 12 titles and never lost in Hilton. I don't know that we'll ever have a player do that again.
That was team accomplishment not Tinsley’s individual accomplishment. People often ignore the fact that he was turnover prone (4 TO/game) and a poor shooter (<40%). Tinsley was a great college player but he is not at Haliburton’s level. He got more recognition than Haliburton because of team success.
Again an absolutely really odd and incorrect post.
Tinsley is one of the best players to ever play college basketball at Iowa State. A literal All-American, and THE key driver for 2 of the best seasons in Iowa State history, including (unequivocally the best season and team in our history). No, he wasn’t “good” because of team success (that assertion is certifiably asinine). He WAS the reason for the team success. Everyone who knows ball know this. It’s not in question.
Hali is obviously a better pro and on pace to become the BEST pro Iowa State has ever produced. Hali will become a legend (and he might be one already), and will continue to be a very different legend than Jamaal Tinsley.
It's incredibly stupid we don't have a Fizer and Tinsley jersey up in rafters. Just irrational.
Tinsley had no eligibility left, Fizer could have gone pro as a sophomore easily and came back for junior year. I love the newer class of legends like Monte, Ejim and Niang but it's going to feel wrong if they get honored and Fizer/Tinsley don't. I mean change the rules if the rules are that dumb.
I never said Tinsley was only good because his teams were good. What I said was that he got more attention than Haliburton because he played on a better team. Tinsley was a key part of some of the most successful teams in Iowa State history, but he also had a stronger supporting cast—Fizer (even if just for one year), Horton, Shirley, and Rancik. It’s not Haliburton’s fault that he had to play under a terrible coach.
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Saw it on Wikipedia that it appeared to the the first regular season game.
Two exhibitions before that.
Isn't the job of a point guard to win games? No Cyclone point guard has done a better job of winning games than Tinsley.
Yes, he won more games than Haliburton but he had better supporting cast and far superior coach.
So what did Tinsley to do to you to make you not like him?
There's something there really holding yiu back from admitting his talent or successes.
I never said he was not a great player. He was great player but not better than Haliburton. Cyclone fans underrate the numbers Haliburton put up in college.
The question is why does it seem you have something against him like a grudge?
Who's saying he's a better player than Haliburton?
And how did Hali come into the conversation since it was originally about Irving and Tinsley? Do you think Hali has better handles than Irving too?
Do you see him putting spin moves from the arc to get to the hoop or dribbling between defenders?
Yes, I have seen him dribbling between defenders against college playes. He took some unnecessary risks and this usually resulted in turnovers.
This is a weird obsession you have. Let it go.
Can't answer the rest of the questions?
Usually? You didn't see him getting to the hoop in the NBA?
I can't believe this thread is still going strong, so I'll contribute.
There's a difference between being the best player during his time at Iowa State and being Iowa State's best NBA player.
Tyrese is well on his way to being Iowa State's best NBA player (I think he's there already). There's no universe where Jamaal was the better pro than Tyrese.
As far as being Iowa State's best player, there's a world where Tyrese would have worked his way into that conversation. If he doesn't get hurt and if he stays for 4 years, I'm guessing he'd be right there. But we had him for 1.5 years when he was still growing and learning as a player. Jamaal was 21 and had already grown a lot before he even got to us. My guess is 18 year old Jamaal would have been a bit rough around the edges. So you can't compare the two of them at Iowa State, they were totally different things. Jamaal had the better Iowa State career, but it would be interesting to see how their junior and senior seasons would have compared.
Another thing is we all judge best Iowa State player differently. Some only care about the record of the teams. Some put emphasis on how long a player was around. Some want to say whoever had the best pro career.
There's a difference between being the best player during his time at Iowa State and being Iowa State's best NBA player.
Tyrese is well on his way to being Iowa State's best NBA player (I think he's there already). There's no universe where Jamaal was the better pro than Tyrese.
As far as being Iowa State's best player, there's a world where Tyrese would have worked his way into that conversation. If he doesn't get hurt and if he stays for 4 years, I'm guessing he'd be right there. But we had him for 1.5 years when he was still growing and learning as a player. Jamaal was 21 and had already grown a lot before he even got to us. My guess is 18 year old Jamaal would have been a bit rough around the edges. So you can't compare the two of them at Iowa State, they were totally different things. Jamaal had the better Iowa State career, but it would be interesting to see how their junior and senior seasons would have compared.
Another thing is we all judge best Iowa State player differently. Some only care about the record of the teams. Some put emphasis on how long a player was around. Some want to say whoever had the best pro career.
