That’s why I said “high end”.
At ISU Morris is best ball handler for what you’re talking about but I’m sure Tyrese would have been had he stayed. Tyrese already best passer at ISU in the short time.
Just my thoughts though.
Jamaal Tinsley opinion..
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That’s why I said “high end”.
At ISU Morris is best ball handler for what you’re talking about but I’m sure Tyrese would have been had he stayed. Tyrese already best passer at ISU in the short time.
Just my thoughts though.
It’s the creativity and willingness to put that creativity u to practice in unique ways. Jason Williams is another that played that way. No one grows up on the playground anymore, they get even the lowest income kids in structured ball at an early age.
If your talking elite passing, your are getting into McCaffrey territory here.
Ive never seen a guy yoyo a basketball as easily and effortlessly as JT. At any level. Rafer Alston is right up there also.
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Just artistry and having ball on a string Tinsley was insane and in that group with them. If you made a game of basketball keepaway where the only goal is to keep a dribble away from people Tinsley is BY FAR the best I've ever seen. At the end of some games when the other teams were trying to steal or foul it got really comical at ISU. In those situations it was straight up Globetrotters but with a purpose.
Passing the ball Tyrese was next level even at ISU and in the world right now it's basically him and Jokic for creative brilliant passing. He's a great combination of taking care of the ball but still a great ball handler, but it's the passing that separates him more than his handles. Specifically Tyrese is very possibly the best passer after jumping the game has ever seen, they've done statistical breakdowns proving it. His turnovers actually go down and his scoring rate on passes goes up after he jumps giving up his dribble, counter intuitive to the "fundamentals" that are coached and we'll see if it changes the game long term or if he's just a unicorn.
The beauty of NPOTY Garza is you had to start a player whose only role and only recorded stat was passing him the ball in the post, especially into already set double teams. Not just anybody can do that, it takes specific McCaffery genetics to get that role.
Only Fizer's junior season was better. Royce is underrated. It hasn't been that long and people already forget how dominant he was for Hoiberg that year.
Reminder: Safest ball handler does not equal best ball handler.
Jamaal wasn't on that Pacers finals team. He did make the east finals in 2004 where they lost to the Pistons. He was also in the "Malice in the Palace" tho not directly involved in the fighting and was not suspended. Never lost in Hilton or to Kansas. "Just another gym". 'Nuff said!
He was better than Anthony Davis in that NCAA tourney game too
The first time I saw him was at Drake, he looked terrible. LOL. Of course the rest is history. Two conference titles with him at the point, enough said. And the second one he pulled off atter losing Fizer, Johnson and Nurse.
Kyrie is obviously the (much) better overall player, he was Rookie of the Year, 8x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, JT was none of those things. I think that's what got people fired up after T-Mac's remark. But T-Mac wasn't saying who is the better player, he was saying who had the best handle and Jamaal has a case there for sure. The only other player I'd put in his category on making defenders look foolish is Jason Williams.
"Handle" is also a fairly vague concept that can be interpreted in lots of different ways. One of those "you know it when you see it" type of things.
"Handle" is also a fairly vague concept that can be interpreted in lots of different ways. One of those "you know it when you see it" type of things.
Classic.
Although this montage is super-old, it's worth a look at his pro highlight moves. He did get away with traveling on a couple of plays, but ... par for the course in NBA!
Steve Kerr (among countless others) was a better shooter than many hall of famers and even some who specialized in distance shooting and jump shots. If someone says that they aren't trashing Reggie Miller or Larry Bird by saying what they saw.
Seeing Tyrease play for the first time at Iowa State, I told someone he'd be Iowa State's most successful NBA player in history. I can't prove that, but trust me, I said.
Also don't ask me about all the predictions I've made that fell flat on their face.
When they pull out "has the ball on a string" I think it explains "handle" the best.
I really did too. I couldn't have predicted he'd make these big shots or even be a good shooter, but I was positive right away with the length and vision/passing he'd be a starting point guard in the NBA, once you got to know him and saw he was a solid person that made it even more obvious.
It was immediately a level above almost anything you see in NCAA. People don't realize how rare the combo of that wingspan and an elite true point guard is. Still blows me away he was overlooked by scouts, I'd have pegged it as beyond obvious and he wasn't that hidden being POTY in Wisc.
