Jake Knott suspended for PEDs.

jsb

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Here's the thing. I don't know Jake, but from what I do know he seems to be a pretty good person and has done nothing in his time at Iowa State to make a person think less of him.

I have no idea if it was an honest mistake or if he was taking something on purpose. But what matters is that he got caught and he'll have to pay the price. It's a pretty steep price for a player who is not a lock to make the team.

However, beyond that, I'm going to accept the fact that he made a mistake (either knowingly or unknowingly) and move on. I see no reason to disown him from the Iowa State family for this.
 

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No one is disowning him from the ISU family any more than we did when Klein tried to break someone's neck.

Sure, Knott was repeatedly told how to avoid this type of situation when he signed, but we'll just assume it was an "accident" on his part.

He didn't know.
 

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No one is disowning him from the ISU family any more than we did when Klein tried to break someone's neck.

Sure, Knott was repeatedly told how to avoid this type of situation when he signed, but we'll just assume it was an "accident" on his part.

He didn't know.

I said that I have no idea if it was an honest mistake or if he did something on purpose.

I just can't get too worked up about a player's first PED positive. I'd get plenty worked up if he got another one after getting caught though.
 

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Where's the "Ban them for life" crowd that posts here whenever a baseball player tests positive - or is football different than baseball.
 

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i think people pushing the "you don't understand the supplement industry" argument are trying WAY too hard to not have to believe Jake could have done something wrong.

Had he been a hawk, it would be a different story...

I have no problems with the meds these guys take and are usually able to hide. But if you get pinched, do a Giambi and own it. Hiding behind the "I didn't know what I put in my body" argument is too easy.

And if someone tried to take 25% of MY wages aways you can bet I wouldn't simply "own it" by blaming supplements if I knew I was innocent.
 

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I said that I have no idea if it was an honest mistake or if he did something on purpose.

I just can't get too worked up about a player's first PED positive. I'd get plenty worked up if he got another one after getting caught though.

Yes.

He wasn't warned about it at all after signing. Just ignorance at this point. He didn't know.

The NFL never talks about this type of thing.

He was cheating on purpose and he got caught.

Or he's ********.
 

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It could have been an accident. I guess only him and maybe the team doctor will really know what happened. Still respect the guy for what he did in Ames, but this certainly puts a black mark on his college career.
 

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There is definitely some truth to this, but in that case, those supplement manufacturers need some sort of control to make sure stuff like that doesnt happen.


4 things. 1. 99% of time my guess would be folks that deny they knew what they were doing are full of it, folks that took stimulants especially legal ones however, are more likely the exception (especially in the off season) 2. These supplement companies are unregulated non fda approved and have been repeatedly shown to completely misrepresent what's in the bottle upon independent analysis 3. Illegal and NFL ban list aren't the same thing. All kinds of stimulants and supplements are banned that you can buy over the counter. Stuff in some energy drinks and in cold medicines. 4. He said it was a stimulant. Here are the banned stimulants ps. I have ingested at least 2 of these stimulants legally in the last 3 months that I bought them at quik trip: Screenshots_2014-04-25-22-08-38.png
 
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I thought he was looking pretty huge when I saw him at Foley's in NYC. My friend and I even discussed the possibility of him using steroids.

Anyway, I await the day when PEDs are the norm and we don't care anymore. Or the day when they do blood testing every day before a game (or weekly in MLB/NBA/NHL). Let it all happen or really enforce it.
He tested positive for a stimulant (like caffiene or crystal meth) not a steroid or muscle growth enhancer or hormone. Tweekers aren't known to be big.
 
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The term "PED" is so broad and if you truly know Jake, you know he's one of the hardest workers around and doesn't need to cheat to gain an advantage
 

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The NFL's record on player health and safety is far from spotless. Team doctors have been known to provide medical advice with the best interests of the team ahead of the individual. "Supplement" companies are not regulated at all. And even if they were, intellectual property laws will not force them to list every single ingredient. They don't publish KFC's 11 herbs and spices or the formula for Coke. An athlete who's performance jumps up after using a particular supplement is worth millions in marketing and sales to a supplement company. And that same athlete stands to make a lot more money in the same case. There is too much benefit for the supplement company and the athlete to NOT push the envelope of legality, and every now and then they push too far.

The average NFL career is 4 years, and 59% of players make less than $1million per year. So to really accumulate enough wealth to last through bad investments, mooching family and friends, makin' it rain, etc., it's a race for the player to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. http://www.besttickets.com/blog/unofficial-2013-nfl-census/
 

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I couldn't care less. This has absolutely no effect on my opinions of him as a Cyclone. Still one of the all-time greats.

On a related note - at least it makes some sense that Jake would try to get an edge. He's probably on the edge of staying in the league, and the consequences of dropping out could cost him millions of dollars. This, to me, would be temping. What I don't understand are guys like Barry Bonds (yes, I know I switched sports), who are already great, and take the stuff to try and become the greatest....basically just for their ego.
 

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Well, he didn't rape a girl, invite friends over to bet on dog fights, drive drunk and kill anyone, and he didn't shoot himself in the foot (literally). Jake really needs to work on his street cred.

That said, still love the guy.
 
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