Ideas? most people say this would include adding more club sections... which would in turn add seats.make the game day experience better. do not add seats
Ideas? most people say this would include adding more club sections... which would in turn add seats.make the game day experience better. do not add seats
The future is club and premium seating and in game experience, not jamming more bodies into the same footprint.
You're going to start seeing some stadiums actually reduce capacity in order to offer a better (i.e. higher dollar) experience in more parts of the stadium. The new buildings in the NBA and NFL are proving that people will pay more to have more space and more amenities.
Sticking the most vocal section in the end zone isn’t going to do anyone any good. It’s not like Hilton. Not to mention, these are the future donors ten or twenty years down the line—some of the big donors after that.I stated earlier that we need to shift the students to the end zone or expand the students to the end zone if we do the NEZ.
And people freaked, I dont mean that we move all of them, I think that you take the farthest center sections that are gold level and return those to gold and put those in the New corner, then any more student sections added you add in the corner. the students still get a third of the side, but you gain a couple high value sections back, and any other increased student seating goes in the corner. This continues to put the students in the area of the opposing team and their enter/exit.
This also means first come first serve students as always get the best seats. But dont get me wrong, the majority of the student seating is not going anywhere, but if there is expansion in the NEZ I can see this.
I stated earlier that we need to shift the students to the end zone or expand the students to the end zone if we do the NEZ.
And people freaked, I dont mean that we move all of them, I think that you take the farthest center sections that are gold level and return those to gold and put those in the New corner, then any more student sections added you add in the corner. the students still get a third of the side, but you gain a couple high value sections back, and any other increased student seating goes in the corner. This continues to put the students in the area of the opposing team and their enter/exit.
This also means first come first serve students as always get the best seats. But dont get me wrong, the majority of the student seating is not going anywhere, but if there is expansion in the NEZ I can see this.
So you are saying you cant leave the decks as is and add a sky box with an open air club below it like this? why not?I just don't see it. There isnt likely demand for all the seats a barebones third deck of seats would bring. So you're really needing to add premium seating. You can't really do that with the current upper deck in place.
I'd take TCU's upper deck reconstruction as a comparable example..
dude I said 2 sections, not the entire student section...litterally the gold levelsIMO, this would GREATLY impact the experiance of JTS in a negative way.. Having the greatest noise makers in the stadium stuck in the endzones... No thank you
The reason the upper decks look so vacant during some games is they pack 3 people into 2 seats in the lower bowl
I stated for some time this needs to be the next major improvement to JTS, lots of private boxes and club seats are the ticket to continue to build the following we need. Des Moines is only 30 minutes away with a lot of ISU fans and lot of businesses willing and able to purchase club seats and boxes if available.So you are saying you cant leave the decks as is and add a sky box with an open air club below it like this? why not?
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you are my point exactly, "if we arent selling out we shouldnt add" mentality. yet we sell thousands more than we did every game before expansion. and it was the same argument then. we only sold out a couple games then. But now we have wait lists for club sections and suites. and season ticket sections at the gold, cardinal etc are sold out. but hey we dont need to add cuz when its 10 degrees in December some people dont buy tickets.As far as expanding the stadium, the cost to expand the stadium would take forever to make up by selling cheaper tickets. Also, we're all absolutely pumped right now and we should be but we don't typically sell out every game.
In 2019 we had 3 sellouts - UNI, Iowa, and OSU (homecoming). No other game broke 60k tickets sold.
In 2018, we had zero sellouts and unless I'm incorrect only one game broke 57k and that was an early game against OU.
We shouldn't be making multi-million dollar stadium seating renovations until it's been proven it's sustainable IMO.
you are my point exactly, "if we arent selling out we shouldnt add" mentality. yet we sell thousands more than we did every game before expansion. and it was the same argument then. we only sold out a couple games then. But now we have wait lists for club sections and suites. and season ticket sections at the gold, cardinal etc are sold out. but hey we dont need to add cuz when its 10 degrees in December some people dont buy tickets.
We litterally are approaching 50,000 season tickets sold and people say, we shouldnt add cuz we dont sell out the visitor reserved seats. LOL
I promise, when I win the big Powerball, I’ll donate $100 million for an expansion. That way any additional revenue over what we already have is just gravy.As far as expanding the stadium, the cost to expand the stadium would take forever to make up by selling cheaper tickets. Also, we're all absolutely pumped right now and we should be but we don't typically sell out every game.
In 2019 we had 3 sellouts - UNI, Iowa, and OSU (homecoming). No other game broke 60k tickets sold.
In 2018, we had zero sellouts and unless I'm incorrect only one game broke 57k and that was an early game against OU.
We shouldn't be making multi-million dollar stadium seating renovations until it's been proven it's sustainable IMO.
There is no chance the Jack Trice Club will be replaced by suites. It might actually reduce revenue if you did but I'd be interested in knowing the actual numbers. For sure it would piss off a lot of pretty big donors. I don't see putting suites in on the ends of the east side either, but I suppose you could. My guess is that if new suites are added it would part of a press box expansion project.The next project in JTS needs to be copying the West Side suites between the upper and lower deck for the East side of the stadium. You can save the Trice Club if you want to save money
I remember when 40,000 at a game was a big deal.
Enrollment has gone from about 24K when I was a student, to 36K. That’s gonna have a lot to do with it.Obviously the vastly improved program is a big reason for the improved attendance, but even when Danny Mac had his best teams, we struggled to average over probably 45k. I remember going to the game against Missouri where a win would have put us in the Big 12 title game. This is the game where we missed like a 21 yard field goal to win it. Granted, it was a cold game, but nonetheless, it was to win the Big 12 North and go to the title game. I got tickets on the day of the game for the lower level at around the 30 yard line and our section was not even full. I feel pretty confident saying that the attendance had to be in the mid 30s or so.
When I was at ISU, you could basically drive 30 miles West and be in Husker land, and then 30 miles North, East, or South and be in Hawkeye land.
I don't live in Iowa anymore but have a lot of family there. And it seems to me that when I go back I see a lot more Iowa State fans wearing gear than I ever did growing up.
For those of you who live in Iowa, do you feel like the percentage of residents who support ISU has changed significantly? I've had a friend tell me that the Des Moines metro has at least as many ISU fans as Hawkeye ones now, which would have been unthinkable back in the early 90s when I was in school. The idea of Iowa State having a season when they averaged 60k+ in attendance would have been completely fanciful to me 25 years ago no matter how good the football team was. Its fantastic to see all of the support.
Obviously the vastly improved program is a big reason for the improved attendance, but even when Danny Mac had his best teams, we struggled to average over probably 45k. I remember going to the game against Missouri where a win would have put us in the Big 12 title game. This is the game where we missed like a 21 yard field goal to win it. Granted, it was a cold game, but nonetheless, it was to win the Big 12 North and go to the title game. I got tickets on the day of the game for the lower level at around the 30 yard line and our section was not even full. I feel pretty confident saying that the attendance had to be in the mid 30s or so.
When I was at ISU, you could basically drive 30 miles West and be in Husker land, and then 30 miles North, East, or South and be in Hawkeye land.
I don't live in Iowa anymore but have a lot of family there. And it seems to me that when I go back I see a lot more Iowa State fans wearing gear than I ever did growing up.
For those of you who live in Iowa, do you feel like the percentage of residents who support ISU has changed significantly? I've had a friend tell me that the Des Moines metro has at least as many ISU fans as Hawkeye ones now, which would have been unthinkable back in the early 90s when I was in school. The idea of Iowa State having a season when they averaged 60k+ in attendance would have been completely fanciful to me 25 years ago no matter how good the football team was. Its fantastic to see all of the support.
That Missouri game was one of the coldest football games I have ever been at. It was about 35 degrees, but a steady bone chilling cold rain fell on us the whole game. I can see why a lot of fans didn't show up
IMO, this would GREATLY impact the experiance of JTS in a negative way.. Having the greatest noise makers in the stadium stuck in the endzones... No thank you
The reason the upper decks look so vacant during some games is they pack 3 people into 2 seats in the lower bowl