It's not a talent issue.

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I think the loss of Farniok was huge in determining assignments on the line. Maybe that was even bigger than the physical presence we lost.

It very well may be. Similar to losing Knott a couple years ago, the leadership ultimately met a lot more than his athletic ability, IMO.
 

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I think the loss of Farniok was huge in determining assignments on the line. Maybe that was even bigger than the physical presence we lost.

This. Farniok is a very vocal leader. He brings the nasty to this team. He's a lot of fun to watch and listen to down on the field. I noticed him getting to the safety a few times before he got hurt today. When he left I think the team had déjà vu and they lost their swagger. Then little by little the wheels fell off the bus one by one.
 

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The thing that upset me the most is when a NDSU player would get past the defense and as he was running away he was getting further away from our defense. If our defense doesn't have the speed to even keep pace with NDSU there is no way they will even be close to the better teams in the Big 12.
 

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The D is a bunch of scrubs. The O is just undisciplined and poorly coached.
 

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I just wish Richardson could be the leader out there but it's just not his personality. He's a better runner, not always by design but Rohach seems to have a little more energy. Its uncanny that year after year we show a little spark early on followed by a turnover right before the half and they easily put points on the board every time with a minute or 2 left and then get the ball to start the second half. Throw in a couple of tough injuries and a horrible call on the ejection and that is ISU football. Our defense just seemed confused at times and out of gas and after a couple series on offense we're unable to run the ball and become one dimensional. Talent or coaching, anyone's guess.
 

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We need to force some sort of turnover as well. Combined 1 sack and turnover today. Need much more than that.
 

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To say it's not a talent issue is completely dependent on the talent of the other team. When playing the likes of UNI or NDSU, we have enough talent to beat them and the losses fall more on the coaches, developing players and getting them ready for the game. If you're talking about us playing the likes of Texas or Oklahoma then there is definitely a talent issue because they out recruit the living daylights out of us and your coaching must be superior to win those. I would sure hope there is not a talent issue when playing an FCS team. If there a talent issue then we have a much bigger problem having a coach who can't out recruit FCS teams when we have more scholarships to give, much better facilities, bigger fanbase and a member of the Big 12.
 

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I just wish Richardson could be the leader out there but it's just not his personality. He's a better runner, not always by design but Rohach seems to have a little more energy. Its uncanny that year after year we show a little spark early on followed by a turnover right before the half and they easily put points on the board every time with a minute or 2 left and then get the ball to start the second half. Throw in a couple of tough injuries and a horrible call on the ejection and that is ISU football. Our defense just seemed confused at times and out of gas and after a couple series on offense we're unable to run the ball and become one dimensional. Talent or coaching, anyone's guess.
I agree, I think the initial mistake was naming SBR starter over Rohach. Sam looked confused and flustered most of the day, and was much too hesitant getting rid of the ball. He looked nervous and flighty in the pocket and was too one dimensional as he tended to just check down one or two receivers till he decided to tuck tail and run. I wonder how long until the coaches put in the right QB
 

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I said this after last season, this is a talent issue. Rhoads did just fine with the talent that Chizik brought in. Right now there is zero to no talent on the defensive side of the ball. He is bringing in JUCO's right and left as band aids for the lack of recruiting on that side of the ball. On the offensive side of the ball there is something to work with, but not nearly enough. Some nice WR's, a TE, an OK lineman, but the QB position is a serious problem.
 

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I disagree. Our line play is nothing short of pathetic. We're small and slow. The staffs failure to identify good quality lineman on both sides if the ball is the reason we fail. It's the reason Mac failed.
In the last couple years it's seems like they've done better on recruiting but you won't see that for a couple years.

When North Dakota boys are beating the boys from Florida and Texas on a warm day, you know you have problems.
 

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Talent is definitely a problem just not against teams like NDST. Coaching is the problem against teams like this.

When we play actual good teams, then it's both.

Agree with this 100% While talent IS an issue, yesterday had nothing to do with talent. ISU had that game in hand yesterday, and folded like a piece of thin paper.
 

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I agree, I think the initial mistake was naming SBR starter over Rohach. Sam looked confused and flustered most of the day, and was much too hesitant getting rid of the ball. He looked nervous and flighty in the pocket and was too one dimensional as he tended to just check down one or two receivers till he decided to tuck tail and run. I wonder how long until the coaches put in the right QB
Time for tryouts next week.
 

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I'll just say if our defense was slow against NDSU and continues to be slow the rest of the season.... West Virginia will throttle us by 40+, OK state will throttle us by 50+ for the simple fact they have straight jet burners on their teams and actually utilize them good for them= bad for us
 

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Of course it is a talent issue. The talent level, particularly on defense, is just abysmal.
 

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I see a team without a QB or leader. I know our O-line is so-so but put a

1. Confident
2. Capable
3. Intelligent
4. Leader

Under center and the line would work better. Our QB's have been timid, unfocused, and gun shy for four years. A lot of this is coaching and rotating game by game who will start.

I'm not a professional analyst but I drink a lot of beer and watch a lot of games.

I agree with this 100%. 14 points is not acceptable. QB play was horrible after the first two scores. Sam holds the ball way too long and then he often makes poor decisions when under pressure. I think he is talented enough, but man is he frustrating. We need need him to show a lot more mental toughness than that.
 

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Those of you SBR supporters, Rohach is the better guy. I hope he starts next week as SBR can't make decisions to save his life out there. Richardson looks for one target and if he isn't open he makes stupid choices.
 

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It's not even that SBR is better or worse than Rohach. I think if your going to utilize the QB running as a 1/4 of your game plan - put in a big physical QB like Lanning. I know he is young but holy crap use him. KSU used Klein and that was the same little option read deal we are trying now.

There is no point in sidelining a player because of youth or inexperience. What happens when SBR and Rohach get dinged up from running, your putting him in anyways.

I guess what I'm saying is at least try to find an offense that gels and works. What is the definition of insanity???
 

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It surely is a talent issue. There are certain players starting that have no business starting on a big 12 team. Scariest part is some started last year too and weren't recruited over.
 

Wesley

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Of course it is a talent issue. The talent level, particularly on defense, is just abysmal.
My current thought is that AJ Klien and Jake Knott has enough speed and fortitude to cover up a lot of sins. Look how many ntackles they made. After the UNI game, JG made it happen. Now the pressure is on to have good linebackers this year stopping the run. Crocket went right up the gut and one missed tackle by the backup was all she wrote.

On a good note, it was only 17 points a half. The first half a couple of big plays shredded the defense. In the second half, the offense sputtered and ignition went out. The defense had little to play for in the second half with the offense ineffective.
 

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