What exactly was his role? Jacking up flailing away NBA 3s out of the context of the offense?
In his defense we didn't run much of an offense either.
ISU players love T.J.
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In his defense we didn't run much of an offense either.
Reading this post literally put me right back in my seat at the BOK Center in Tulsa. That performance versus Ohio State was some serious hero ball.
Kinda silly for us to judge/speculate on players/former players on their takes and picking apart based on our own confirmation bias...meaning, most of the guys know these coaches way more than us.....and came to isu (or stayed because of them).
When Paul Shirley was honest about LE.....some folks couldn't handle it...because that was a winning time for us.....also can be true at our lowest (this past years), guys come out in appreciation of Prohm.
If our next coach recruits state of Iowa, former player Jake Sullivan will love them, lol
Until I hear from Andrew Skogland or Calvin Godfrey, I'm not going to be swayed
When Paul Shirley was honest about LE.....some folks couldn't handle it...because that was a winning time for us.....also can be true at our lowest (this past years), guys come out in appreciation of Prohm.
If our next coach recruits state of Iowa, former player Jake Sullivan will love them, lol
Until I hear from Andrew Skogland or Calvin Godfrey, I'm not going to be swayed
Shirley was honestly about his experience with Eustachy...but I think we should also acknowledge that other former players didn't have the same experience.
Let me know what Omar Bynum says about the hire.
Lol
That's the thing, the coaching relationship is so much more than just wins/losses....and a player could love/not love a coach for a variety of reasons.
And I can also see how assistants may build better relationships based on the additional.contact they have, recruitment, less busy than a head coach, etc.
2-week interview process = guaranteed success. At least that's how it sounds. Anyone involved in many hiring knows that you can have the most thorough interview process and totally fail. Hiring is an art. It is so subjective. I have found my best hires are with the people I know and have I observed. I remember my TOTAL shock when Johnny was hired, along with the rest of the BB world. Personality, skill, recruiting, experience, proven. He totally turned the program around for history. For all those who claim TJ is only liked by former players, only recruited by former players, his UNLV record sucks, look at his track record. Not always a winning record. There are so many coaches who have failed, been fired, went to the right place and won. As a Packer fan, I am aware of Andy Reid. Failure at Philadelphia. What a loser! We could name many coaches like this. A process is not the answer IF you know someone is a good bet.
TJ wants to be in Ames +1. He recruits+ 1. People 10 years ago like him. +1. Have no idea why we'd assume that was in the past while he pulled Grill away from ISU. There is no guarantee he will be a long-term winner. Name a better option, other than Johnny. We won't know until time tells. For now, I'm all in. And out.
TJ wants to be in Ames +1. He recruits+ 1. People 10 years ago like him. +1. Have no idea why we'd assume that was in the past while he pulled Grill away from ISU. There is no guarantee he will be a long-term winner. Name a better option, other than Johnny. We won't know until time tells. For now, I'm all in. And out.
CycloneErik
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"With all the grad transfers and the JC market, I feel he could strengthen the frontcourt also. "
The combination of Otz recruiting acumen and the timing is an under appreciated aspect of the Otz hire. Between Covid transfer rules and the restrictions on in-person recruiting this year, the transfer market is going to be insane this year and likely next. If Otz is as good at recruiting and working transfers as we think, he could haul in some top-tier talent from the transfer market.
The combination of Otz recruiting acumen and the timing is an under appreciated aspect of the Otz hire. Between Covid transfer rules and the restrictions on in-person recruiting this year, the transfer market is going to be insane this year and likely next. If Otz is as good at recruiting and working transfers as we think, he could haul in some top-tier talent from the transfer market.
CycloneErik
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TJ is JP's buddy. That's the only qualification that matters. Don't dress it up to be more than it is.
Equating an NFL coach (who didn't fail in Philly, both sides needed a fresh start) changing jobs to someone struggling at a lower level jumping to the highest level in the sport (college basketball) is way off base. Who the hell knows if TJ will be successful here, but that's not the point. Iowa State can and should look for more than familiarity with its' hires.
The most pressing need for the program is to upgrade the talent on the roster. Recruiting seems to be in Otz's wheelhouse. Definitely interested in seeing the assistants, though.
All I can think about with this hire and no interviews. Member Berries Galore. Somebody please make meme or Gif of JP eating Member Berries and thinking of TJ
No I don't Member. The Regular Season Record when TJ was an Asst was 139-118. A .540 regular season win % doesn't mean a lot. But a yeah you go back to your Member Berries now
That is an Avg of 17 wins in the reg season. Prohm has avg 20 as a head coach FOR HIS CAREER and he got fired. So yeah. The Bro-Motions are in full effect here for The ISU Bro-Clones
How many wins has Prohm averaged the last four years when he didn't have the elite talent that he took over from the Hoiberg regime???.....yeah that would be 12 wins a year on average for four years in the Big 12......that's pathetic.....and he averaged a whopping 4.5 wins a year in the Big 12.....real impressive.......I see your point....
Yeah, his players weren't big fans of him and one of his teams fell apart at the end of the season leading to one of the biggest upsets in NCAA tournament history.
TJ wanting to be in Ames is not a reason to hire him as a head coach. I’ve seen people use that as justification for this hire, and they should really stop. It’s irrelevant.
