ISU Gambling Megathread
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I think what is also getting lost in this whole thing is the innocent athletes. I don't know how GeoFences work, or what type of information they track, but if they track all information from all sources, there are a lot of innocent Americans that are affected. Could this go way beyond just the affected athletes?
Do you have the Iowa Code for that? The reason I ask is because “why weren’t they charged with that crime?” if it’s Iowa law.
But regardless, what Sanger did was illegal because he didn’t have a warrant. A good lawyer would get it thrown on based on that alone.
I've searched through the Iowa Code when this thing first started and could not find an Iowa law that prevents athletes and coaches from sports betting.
The only thing I found was what you referenced which are guidelines from the Iowa Racing and Gaming Association to betting entities. That is not a law.
Businesses regularly have guidelines/requirements from oversight commissions that are not actual laws.
Would this position be apart of the police union though? I’ve gotta imagine liability protection is written into those contracts.
What about all the non-athletes in the freshmen dorms that he allegedly did the first geo-fence around?
I'm a little unclear because I mostly practice bird law, but there's something in the code about placing bets after obtaining knowledge about the outcome of a future game, being in the program and betting on/against your team could fall under that maybe. I don't know if it applies to sports betting too though.
Would love to know what Mr. Sanger's motive was for going rogue and doing a warrantless investigation, and then continuing the investigation after his supervisor told him to stop. Was he hoping to advance his career with a headline grabbing investigation, or did he have some axe to grind when it came to Iowa and ISU athletics?
Would also love to know why his supervisor okayed the investigation after saying no the first time. Seems like the supervisor has big time liability, too.
Would also love to know why his supervisor okayed the investigation after saying no the first time. Seems like the supervisor has big time liability, too.
Well obviously the rogue Mr. Sanger was trying to protect the integrity of college athletics and keep our brave men and women out of harm's way from organized crime.
That's why he **** on our inalienable rights and went warrantless. For our own good.
From what I understand, those are internal controls to be regulated by the IRGC themselves, not the DCI. If they find people breaking Iowa code (like gambling underage), then they refer them to DCI.
DCI is just the people that investigate and enforce the laws, IRGC doesn't do that. Let me see if I can find the thing I read.
6. a. A person who places, removes, increases, or decreases a bet after acquiring knowledge of the outcome of the gambling game which is the subject of the bet or who aids a person in acquiring the knowledge for the purpose of placing, removing, increasing, or decreasing a bet contingent on that outcome commits the offense of unlawful betting.
b. (1) A person is guilty of a class “D” felony if the person commits the offense of unlawful betting where the potential winnings from the bet exceed one thousand dollars in value.
(2) A person is guilty of an aggravated misdemeanor if the person commits the offense of unlawful betting where the potential winnings from the bet exceed five hundred dollars in value but do not exceed one thousand dollars in value.
(3) A person is guilty of a serious misdemeanor if the person commits the offense of unlawful betting where the potential winnings from the bet exceed two hundred dollars in value but do not exceed five hundred dollars in value.
(4) A person is guilty of a simple misdemeanor if the person commits the offense of unlawful betting where the potential winnings from the bet do not exceed two hundred dollars in value.
Found it, but like I said, it says "gambling game" so I don't know if that includes sports betting, maybe gambling game is only like casino games.
Iowa racing and gaming has guidelines for the gambling entity (that was posted up in the thread).
Basically that guideline says the gambling entity has to monitor and report certain things. But that is not what happened in this case Spangler of the DCI took it upon himself with NO probable cause to investigate.
Basically that guideline says the gambling entity has to monitor and report certain things. But that is not what happened in this case Spangler of the DCI took it upon himself with NO probable cause to investigate.
That's pretty vague and hard to enforce. Most of us have on this board, especially the pay board, have knowledge of something that could influence the outcome of a future game.
Where he can get caught on it is the investigation found he started it on his own without direction to do it. Then when he reported what he found, he was told to stop but he continued. The state has a bigger problem because the second time he went to them, he was told he could continue.
Guessing it was to advance himself. Unless he was upset that Iowa and ISU didn't recruit him and he had to play at Waldorf. If that was the case, you think he would have came after UNI also.
Only question I have is did the companies willingly give IOwa DCI access to their data?
I think gambling games is casino games since Sports Betting has its own section in the IRGC guidelines but who knows.
I'd imagine something like Draftkings or Fanduel have something about that in their TOSs. Complying with subpoenas or whatever.
Governor Reynolds issued the following statement of support for the DCI when they arrested the Iowa and ISU athletes:
"I support wholeheartedly the department and the decisions that were made."
Anxiously awaiting a new statement from our governor.
"I support wholeheartedly the department and the decisions that were made."
Anxiously awaiting a new statement from our governor.
