Isheem Young enters transfer portal

[Gunnerclone]

Good thing TJ is the real deal. We're a basketball school again!

This is where I would go. Poor all of our resources in to basketball deals.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

There are litigators already working on it champ.

Do you have a link to this? Haven’t heard anything along those lines and it has nothing to do with title 9

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I think they have an amazing case if wrestlers, male runners, male swimmers, etc... get more than they do at the same schools.

Not JorBo's car wash and fireworks stands deals directed to an individual endorsement, but the Texas "we give every lineman 100k/year" would be crazy illegal if male athletes nobody heard of are getting more than female athletes.

If a school has a general NIL fund for athletes outside of football and basketball and it's not equitable for men and women it's obviously not rational and fair.

My god you guys have no idea how title 9 or NIL works. A school cannot have an NIL fund. Also the money is coming from outside of the university so not subject to title 9. Now of the school had NIL staff and didn’t make them available to female athletes then that would be a title 9 problem

 

[HFCS]

This is where I would go. Poor all of our resources in to basketball deals.

Look at Hilton last week. Maybe 10 other venues in the entire sport like that. Plenty of ranked teams playing to near empty arenas.

Pour all the $ into that sport and let the home court/fans during recruiting visits be the equalizer to get players from around the country in.

At least we got the Fiesta Bowl on our way out.

 

[HFCS]

My god you guys have no idea how title 9 or NIL works. A school cannot have an NIL fund. Also the money is coming from outside of the university so not subject to title 9. Now of the school had NIL staff and didn’t make them available to female athletes then that would be a title 9 problem

Plenty of programs seem to be setting up funds to pay athletes they haven't even signed yet for their hypothetical likeness.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I had a job offer for $30k more this year, but turned it down because my boss is fantastic and the career trajectory is great. The grass isn’t always greener.

What if you were at a big fat $0 working fora place to live basically?

 

[jcisuclones]

Trust the Process

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Plenty of programs seem to be setting up funds to pay athletes they haven't even signed yet for their hypothetical likeness.

That isn’t the school setting up the program. It is an outside organization of alums and boosters. Thus not subject to title 9

 

[HFCS]

That isn’t the school setting up the program. It is an outside organization of alums and boosters. Thus not subject to title 9

I guess I assumed there had to be some connection to paying every University of Texas lineman an automatic 100k a year and the University of Texas. It's all very nonsensical at this point.

 

[CyCloned]

I encourage you to read up studies on the effect of money. Yes it has an impact, but it has its limits.

When you are talking about a bunch of kids that came from poor families, money is a very big thing. Yes, I agree, at some point, money isn't everything. But when you start with very little, a little money looks good.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I guess I assumed there had to be some connection to paying every University of Texas lineman an automatic 100k a year and the University of Texas. It's all very nonsensical at this point.

Don’t disagree but the distinction is important. Also think it’s 50k per year but your point is valid

 

[jbhtexas]

Plenty of programs seem to be setting up funds to pay athletes they haven't even signed yet for their hypothetical likeness.

At the link below, read 3(b)...several times if necessary. California's NIL law was the first one passed (although Florida's NIL law was the first one to go into effect), and is sort of a template for the other 28 states that have NIL laws.

California NIL Law for NCAA - Spry

Explore the California NIL Law for NCAA student athletes including tax implications and FAQs from the industry leading compliance platform, Spry

spry.so

 

[cyclone1209]

How is all this nonsense non-profit when people are get paid to play a sport. You know...like professional athletes that pay taxes.

This is why the ncaa screwed it up. They legalized this thing with zero guard rails. None.

Of course this would happen.

 

[DeereClone]

I encourage you to read up studies on the effect of money. Yes it has an impact, but it has its limits.

I’d guess those studies say the younger and poorer you are the more important money is. I would have done some insanely stupid things in college for a thousand bucks.

 

[jbhtexas]

This is why the ncaa screwed it up. They legalized this thing with zero guard rails. None.

Of course this would happen.

The NCAA didn't "legalize" anything. The NCAA permitted NIL. The states put the laws in place. Read the NIL law at the link above. The law doesn't permit the NCAA to put any guard rails in place...

 

[flycy]

Highest bidder. Its what some of you longed for. Ruining college sports.

 

[WhoISthis]

Have you been to southern California? There might be a few girls in Big 12 sports as cute as the checkout girls at the the grocery store.

Almost none of these female athletes would be marketable because of their play without the tax payer and alumni supported brand on their jersey. Same is true of nearly every male athlete with the exception of a few dozen football and basketball players, maybe a handful of college athletes who got olympic exposure.


It's a symbiotic thing. It's going to change and/or go away.

Sex sells, and it doesn't need to be good sex. Any reasonably attractive female with respect to her environment, athletes for example, has marketable sex appeal. Danica Patrick for example. And America generally prefers younger women in terms of sex appeal.

That is false. I don't think most social media followers care, or know, where these women go to school, or if they are even athletes, That is not how social media works. These influencer women don't amass followers because they're getting fact checked. Social media is rather fake.

It may be more true for a football or MBB player, but your argument is weak. You are expanding the box too far. The building I am sitting in only can exist due to the centuries of development funded by tax payers. The building pays taxes and we call it good. Thousands of workers can only earn money due to similar infrastructure. So they pay taxes too. Many industries and private companies would not that exist if not for taxpayers at some point. Professors at UT make more at UT than UT-Dallas due to it being UT and the state funding behind it. Should they make the same as UT-Dallas?

 

[Lexclone]

When you are talking about a bunch of kids that came from poor families, money is a very big thing. Yes, I agree, at some point, money isn't everything. But when you start with very little, a little money looks good.

I don’t disagree, but we also see a bunch of coaches who do have a lot and chase some more… constantly. It’s hard to watch (as fans) for both players and coaches.

 

[flycy]

This is where people need to focus. Is has never been the money that has made ISU a destination for athletes. It's the passion the fanbase has, the sense of community, and the underdog status. That will always be what makes ISU special. However, if we have fans that are jumping off the deep end and no longer want to support football because they sense we're falling behind, then we will truly fall behind.

They will jump off the deep end and no longer support because these are no longer college students but semi-pro players who pretend to go to school.

 

[flycy]

Sure hope our coaching staff isn’t giving up like this!

and the answer isn’t to go back to the world where the players get zero compensation either. The new world is better than the old even if it means the big boys have a new advantage. If Isheem can make NIL money and his goal is to maximize that then he should have the ability to do so.

They always got scholarships room board and stipends. You know compensation.