Isheem Young enters transfer portal

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The reality is some people will leave, others will join, and Iowa State football will continue.
But will it be more difficult to be successful?

NIL along with the transfer rules are existential threats to Iowa St athletics
 

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The amount of money in all of this is a huge part. The NCAA could have seen this all coming. This isn't the players or Supreme Court fault, it's people that have made an insane amount of money off of athletes fault.
Yes, true. Change is inevitable. Maybe it will straigthen itself out with time.

Every generation has the vile elite who take advantage of others for their own gain. How to correct this is the issue.

We've all said it lately, 'killing the golden goose'. That makes good sense.
 

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Also quite notable that Freyler and McDonald played a LOT down the stretch of the season. Would be interested to see the snap counts with them vs King and Young. If Jordyn Morgan is the real deal (which by these transfers I assume he is) we will be just fine.

Freyler, McDonald and Morgan are a quality group.

Also locked down at CB with Johnson back, Purchase looking good and young guys like Tampa and Kyle waiting.

Wouldnt be crazy to guess Will McDonald comes back....

Just saying.

From a football skills perspective I like Freyler on an open field tackle.
 
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I don't think people have thought about what is going to level this all out in under 5 years. Once non-revenue sports(in particular female athletics) start the lawsuits the landscape will change FAST.
Title 9 has no bearing here and thus NIL isnt subject to lawsuits. Also many female athletes are doing very well being able to monetize their social media.
 

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Title 9 has no bearing here and thus NIL isnt subject to lawsuits. Also many female athletes are doing very well being able to monetize their social media.
There are litigators already working on it champ.
 

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Title 9 has no bearing here and thus NIL isnt subject to lawsuits. Also many female athletes are doing very well being able to monetize their social media.

I wonder how well they'd do if they were playing for WNBA triple G league out of high school instead of riding on the coattails of established brands propped up by alumni and often tax payers. They might be successful at monetizing their social media accounts but it'd have nothing to do with sports, they'd be instagram "models" or "influencers" and succeed at that or fail at it independent of sports.

It's all a house of cards.

There's no inherent marketing value for hundreds or thousands of women athletes (and almost to the same extent college sports male athletes). There's Olympic champions after the Olympics, a few established pro sports at a level where college athletes will never reach and that's about it.

The athletes have value because of the school and the school gets marketing because of the athletes, it's a cycle. The athletes on their own are minor league baseball players in Fargo ND or Sioux City IA with about a 1 in 1000 exception. They can live their dream, but they aren't marketable on their own without university branding.

The first step will be that D1 college sports as a heavily attended spectator event in most regions, then it will go away entirely when what is left is a regional minor league. I can see basketball hanging on, but college football has likely peaked in total national interest with this.
 
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I wonder how well they'd do if they were playing for WNBA triple G league out of high school instead of riding on the coattails of established brands propped up by alumni and often tax payers. They might be successful at monetizing their social media accounts but it'd have nothing to do with sports, they'd be instagram "models" or "influencers" and succeed at that or fail at it independent of sports.
That is already what they are.
 

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From a football skills perspective I like Freyler on an open field tackle.
Freyler made lots of amazing ankle-tackles, comes flying in and somehow hangs on to an ankle. Must be super strong.
 

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Are they very attractive by most measures? Because if so, very well.

Have you been to southern California? There might be a few girls in Big 12 sports as cute as the checkout girls at the the grocery store.

Almost none of these female athletes would be marketable because of their play without the tax payer and alumni supported brand on their jersey. Same is true of nearly every male athlete with the exception of a few dozen football and basketball players, maybe a handful of college athletes who got olympic exposure.

I'm not crushing dreams to compete, but top level elite-in-the-world womens pro sports struggle to survive. How on earth would 4th or 5th tier female athletes be scoring endorsement deals without the brand of a university?

It's a symbiotic thing. It's going to change and/or go away.
 

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Freyler made lots of amazing ankle-tackles, comes flying in and somehow hangs on to an ankle. Must be super strong.

To me he uses better technique.

Young can close and hit hard but wrapping up has not been a strength and never seemed to get corrected.
 
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Have you been to southern California? There might be a few girls in Big 12 sports as cute as the checkout girls at the the grocery store.

Almost none of these female athletes would be marketable because of their play without the tax payer and alumni supported brand on their jersey. Same is true of nearly every male athlete with the exception of a few dozen football and basketball players, maybe a handful of college athletes who got olympic exposure.

I'm not crushing dreams to compete, but top level elite-in-the-world womens pro sports struggle to survive. How on earth would 4th or 5th tier female athletes be scoring endorsement deals without the brand of a university?
This is where Title 9 will be tested.
 

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This is where Title 9 will be tested.

I think they have an amazing case if wrestlers, male runners, male swimmers, etc... get more than they do at the same schools.

Not JorBo's car wash and fireworks stands deals directed to an individual endorsement, but the Texas "we give every lineman 100k/year" would be crazy illegal if male athletes nobody heard of are getting more than female athletes.

If a school has a general NIL fund for athletes outside of football and basketball and it's not equitable for men and women it's obviously not rational and fair.
 
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