Interesting Fiesta Bowl/BCS scenario

wesley_w

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Penn State v. Pitt sounds like a dream scenario for the Orange Bowl... Fiesta, not so much.

I guess I didn't even know that they quit playing each other the last game every year. Did that happen when they both joined conferences??
 

DaddyMac

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Not sure where the confusion lies from the previous warning.....
 
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I guess I didn't even know that they quit playing each other the last game every year. Did that happen when they both joined conferences??

2000 was the last time they played eachother. Apparently PSU is too busy playing Akron and Temple. :cool:
 

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Its going to be Iowa versus Boise State in the Fiesta is my guess.

what everyone seems to be forgetting is Texas Still has to play a dangerous A&M team on the road this week. Plus Nebraska still has a shot at the Fiesta Bowl. (highly unlikely, but could still happen)

Couple things to think about...
1. If Boise St gets passed over win 0 losses then that is going to open up a can.
2. What would happen if Texas loses one of their remaining games and Alabama/Florida has to lose because they play each other? Does that mean an udefeated TCU or CINCY goes to the national Title game?
3. Sports sites are saying if Okie State wins that will get them into the Fiesta and Iowa or Penn State go to the Orange bowl. Again...Wouldn't that leave a TCU or Boise out?

Also....Someone tell me a scenerio how Iowa and ISU both end up in Phoenix? I thought we needed OSU to win, but that would kick Iowa out right? So my understanding is...OSU beats OU and we pretty much go to Arizona.
 

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If Pittsburgh were to win the Big East, the Fiesta Bowl could take Penn State with their first selection to try to get a Penn State-Pittsburgh match-up.

Let me explain how this works again. Assuming the Florida/Alabama winner and Texas play for the National Championship, the order for selecting at-large teams will be Sugar (pick 1), Fiesta (pick 1), Orange, Fiesta (pick 2), and Sugar (pick 2). We assume the Florida/Alabama loser will be Sugar (pick 1), and the Big East champion and TCU (assuming they win out) HAVE to be two of the picks.

That leaves two spots with four teams competing for them: Iowa, Penn State, Oklahoma State (if they beat OU), and Boise State. It's almost a sure thing that either Penn State or Iowa will go, so the last spot will be either Oklahoma State or Boise State.

It's been popular to assume that either Iowa or Oklahoma State is going to the Fiesta Bowl, but Pittsburgh winning the Big East would make it really likely they would take Penn State in my opinion. We know the Fiesta Bowl wants to please the Big 12 by taking Oklahoma State if they're BCS eligible, but they could still do that even if they take Penn State with their first pick.

The Orange Bowl would pick next and have to choose between TCU, Boise State Pittsburgh, and Oklahoma State (again, if they beat OU). BCS bowls don't normally pick mid-majors unless they have to, and the Orange Bowl is tired of low attendance and low ratings with Big East teams, so they would probably take Oklahoma State. Okie State is an old Big 8 school and the Orange Bowl used to take the Big 8 champion every year, so that would be an attractive choice. We saw that with Kansas a couple years ago. If the Big 12 complained about the Fiesta Bowl not taking Okie State, they could just say they planned on taking them with their second pick but the Orange Bowl picked them first.

If it plays out this way, the Fiesta Bowl could take Pitt with their second pick and have that Penn State-Pittsburgh match-up. If for some reason the Orange Bowl selected Pittsburgh rather than Oklahoma State, the Fiesta Bowl could take the Cowboys to please the Big 12.

Basically what I'm saying is if Pittsburgh wins the Big East (and especially if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma as well) it's going to be really hard for Iowa to get to the BCS.


So, if this passes, where do the Hawks go then and will they play on New years?
 

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Okkkkk... I just had my post erased by a mod for the first time since Ive been a member of CF! In hopes of this one actually being posted I will refrain from saying boobs so much, and I will not stick up for GC by questioning his banning. The sad thing is that I actually stayed on topic, the post had a logical prediction on the Fiesta... Not a bunch of Fluff (Penn St. vs Pitt) Really??? It will be Boise St. vs Iowa because Cincinatti wont lose to Pittsburg, Oklahoma will beat Okie St., and Iowa will get in over Penn St. for 2 reasons, 1. Obviously their fans travel very well, and 2. They beat Penn St...
 
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Okkkkk... I just had my post erased by a mod for the first time since Ive been a member of CF! In hopes of this one actually being posted I will refrain from saying boobs so much, and I will not stick up for GC by questioning his banning. The sad thing is that I actually stayed on topic, the post had a logical prediction on the Fiesta... Not a bunch of Fluff (Penn St. vs Pitt) Really??? Cincinatti wont lose to Pittsburg, Oklahoma will beat Okie St., and Iowa will get in over Penn St. for 2 reasons. 1. Obviously their fans travel very well, and 2. They beat Penn St...
My post got erased for the first time as well. I'll simply say that my opinion was in line with yours (I saw it before it was erased).

To stay on topic: In my opinion, there's no scenario in which the Big Ten should get two teams in BCS bowls.
 

DaddyMac

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It's funny how you guys go off topic, or question what's been done.

Then try to cover it with "to stay on topic".

:wacko:
 

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If people's posts were respectful and didn't question necessary moderation, they wouldn't be deleted.

Please stay on topic, or the thread gets closed.
 

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Woah there big guy, it's the holidays and we're talking college football. Smile a little. :yes:

It is, so the mods in here definitely shouldn't have to be taking tons of time and crap in a thread for just trying to keep it clean. :smile:
 

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IF OSU WINS AND GETS BCS-------------
Texas - 8-0 / 13-0 - NT
OSU - 7-1 / 10-2 - Fiesta
Nebraska - 6-2 / 9-4 - Cotton
Tech - 8-4 / 5-3 - Holiday
Mizzou - 5-3 / 8-4 - Sun (went Alamo last year)

OU - 4-4 / 6-6 - Alamo (Alamo's best pick + they have 4 conf wins.)
ISU - 3-5 / 6-6 - Insight
A&M - 3-5 / 6-6 - Indy

IF OSU or NEB DOES NOT GET BCS BID-------
Then its almost certian ISU will go to the Independence bowl. There is no way ISU is picked over a 7 win or even a 6 win OU team.
Texas - 8-0 / 13-0 - NT
Unfilled - Fiesta
OSU - 7-1 / 10-2 - Cotton
Nebraska - 6-2 / 9-4 - Holiday
Mizzou - 5-3 / 8-4 - Sun (went Alamo last year)
Tech - 5-3 / 8-4 - Alamo
OU - 5-3 / 7-5 - Insight
ISU - 3-5 / 6-6 - Indy
A&M - 3-5 / 6-6 - Texas
 

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