On a purely cold blooded financial basis ISU is a better deal than the NBA unless you're Pop or Phil Jackson OR you're cool with bouncing around a lot.
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On a purely cold blooded financial basis ISU is a better deal than the NBA unless you're Pop or Phil Jackson OR you're cool with bouncing around a lot.
I blame it on Jerry Krause promising Floyd something he could not deliver on which was an NBA roster that could compete. That 98-99 roster was just brutal: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1999.html as were the next several years too. It was basically Toni Kukoc and a bunch of guys that would be lucky to get 10 minutes a game on a playoff caliber team. Even Dedric Willoughby was on the roster for 25 games in 99-00 and got 20 mpg
Tim never really got a fair shake in the NBA because he never got a chance to coach a good team. He did take the Hornets to the playoffs with a 41-41 record in 03-04 and that was with their star Jamal Mashburn only playing 19 games that season and still got fired after 1 season.
The reason is Professional sports you are winning titles or you aren't doing your job. There are cases in which ownership simply wants to profit and wins come second if ever. However they cycle through coaches all the time to keep the fans coming by providing false hope. Point is it's a terrible place to go to when you have world at your finger tips in Ames. Dream or no Dream it's a bad idea, unless its in a front office, cushy job he's after. If its not the front office job he's after its just not a smart move, but he's allowed to make mistakes. He literally would not have job security issues in Ames, will have a statue, will have a final four appearance or several, in 20 years ISU will be Hoiberg, Hoiberg will be ISU period. Just like you all know who is Duke, Mich St, UCLA,UNLV etc...
Plus as CW has said, there is no reason he cant make 4 million a year at ISU. If Greg Marshall can make 3 million, ISU can afford 3-4 Million for Fred.
Now as has been speculated if Fred wants the GM job, then well the move is going to happen, and well makes sense.
This again? WSU has T Boone Pickens X2 filling their coffers and they don't have any outlay for a football coach, and never have and never will.
Thibs does have a great regular season record but he is 23-28 in the playoffs. And you can't use the injury excuse because the Bulls under achieved this post season when they were A) healthy and B) got knocked out by an injured team.
We have 3-4 million from revenue that can be spent on a basketball coach. Just the like the Govt, there is LOTS of money.. How you spend it is your choice. There is no way given all this new money that I will ever be convinced that 3-4 million at ISU, for a Top 5-10 coach in the country, is not easily possible.
I believe we get 20 million from our portion of the TV revenue. Take 3.5 million of that, give it to Fred and pretend we get 16.5 million. Again if that won't help, then who cares, don't do it. Its just a side option if money was the deciding factor.
That being said I don't think he's worth 4 million dollars. I do believe he's worth 3 to 3.5 million.
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And yet you've probably ignored about every article and thread on this site that says that Hoiberg doesn't necessarily want 3 to 3.5 million from Iowa State, that it could be used better elsewhere.
This whole Hoiberg looking at the NBA has absolutely nothing to do with money, since apparently you haven't been paying attention from day 1 of the Hoiberg era. We could be paying him $10 million a year and he'd still be looking at the NBA. Why? Because he has pretty much implied from day 1 that he envisions himself coaching in the NBA at some point. Unfortunately for us, this may have come sooner than later - and it has absolutely nothing to do with what he's being paid now.
How many cyclone fans wish to do this if it means we can not buy out our football coach's contract and replace him with a better coach?
We are stuck with Paul. He is not worth buying out. Two wins a year for five more years.
Yup, Phil Jackson got fired twice (although he wanted a ridiculous salary). Now Thibs. Fred Hoiberg is more than dispensable in Jerry Reisendorf's eyes.
Exactly! Interesting ESPN article regarding the timeline of Thib's front office issues. Check out Van Gundy's rants in the aticle ripping on Forman/Paxson -- unreal Fred would want go get involved with that front office, even with his friendship with Forman.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12890745/tom-thibodeau-tenure-chicago-bulls
Chris Williams has led a sheltered life...never seen Star Wars, just went to a major city outside of an ISU event and probably doesn't know who the Koch brothers are...slam a Busch Light and call me a backstabbing former Iowan at least I've read Casey At The Bat and have an open ebenough mind to keep learning and not poo poo on others dreams...do his ramblings in a fake deep radio voice surprise anyone? Seriously? I really wonder why people listen to someone who writes articles that expressly state they are thinking out loud lol seriously super cereal you guys.
CycloneErik
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For the first time in my life, I just saw someone try to pump themselves up by telling us they read "Casey at the Bat."
I didn't know that was a requirement, but I've also read it, so I'm good.
I didn't know that was a requirement, but I've also read it, so I'm good.
You dont listen to KXNO I guess...if you had heard his show on Wed. or Thursday you'd know what I'm referring to.
I once met Chris Williams at a party. We were talking ISU basketball and I disagreed with him on something or another. He proceeded to use the line "Do you know who I am?" And walked off. Funniest thing ever.
