INSIDER: Camp standouts, wild Big 12 expansion rumor
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If the PAC-12 breaks Washington State is going to the mountain West. Hell even their AD was quoted saying that their athletic department gets "Mountain west level support"
They are in the middle of nowhere, in a city of 23,000.
They are in the middle of nowhere, in a city of 23,000.
Not sure why Colorado politics would have the interest in this case, as CSU has never been a P5, nor have they been seriously considered for addition to a P5. Basically, they don't have anything to lose if they aren't included.
I also think the politics of these deals has been overblown in message board chatter, and it is all based on UT dragging the other Texas schools along with them when the SWAC fell apart. As we all know, UT plays by a different set of rules.
There were quotes in the KC Star by Kansas regents in the last round of expansion saying that they would like the two state schools to stay together, but they wouldn't force it. I used to have the article bookmarked. Basically, if KU had a home and KSU didn't, they wouldn't let KSU be the anchor to drown them both.
I've never seen anything official about the Oklahoma schools being a package deal, again just internet speculation likely based on the old rumor of the 6 B12 schools going west. OSU doesn't deliver an added media market to the PAC, nor do they meet the academic standards, so I guess there was an assumption there that they were pulled along by OU. This may be true, but seeing as it can't ever be confirmed if that expansion deal was agreed upon by the PAC schools and extended to the 6 candidates, it is again speculation at best.
...Also find it funny that the general consensus on this message board is that all of these state schools and governments will look out for their fellow state schools, but whenever there is discussion about ISU to the B1G, everyone is convinced that UI will do everything possible to keep us out.
The timing of telling Bowlsby he could move on expansion always seemed strange ... but if some PAC schools were hinting they were available, that would explain a lot.
I thought it was interesting earlier this week that the two freshman running backs and Jones were a prominent part of the practice highlights. Seemed like a great sign. Any word on whether Jones might play as a freshman too?
Yeah, but you could also take them and put some kind of press out about Big12 "influencing" BYU to become more inclusive, or requiring some kinds of changes. Joining the Big12 could even provide cover for BYU admin to take some concrete steps that they might already want to take, but fear pushback from certain groups.
Point is, if you really want them, and they really want in, you can do some things (both real and spin) to make it work.
Who do you take 4th? I still think Houston is a good pickup. For those of you that dislike this idea because = Texas, please read. Also, realize that TV markets and states are not of equal value. Texas is a huge state. And the Big 12 doesn't own the Houston market. As the article below states, it's not adding to the footprint, but defending it, or something like that.
http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-expansion-houston-cougars-football-1965479371.html
Yea don't do that because I would be shocked if atleast 3-4 rb didn't get decent carries this year.
This thread, with its stealing from the Pac12 talk, is so much more enjoyable than the other expansion threads. Maybe if it has enough posts it will magically affect the real world.
Pac-12 suffers from a lack of sports culture. With a couple notable exceptions, people just don't give two rips about college sports out there. Combined with late starts, the rest of the country doesn't get to see much of them either.
You could make a case that Pac-12 teams could enhance their brands a bunch just by coming east to the Big 12. College sports matters here.
You could make a case that Pac-12 teams could enhance their brands a bunch just by coming east to the Big 12. College sports matters here.
I think that David Montgomery is going to show how lucky we are to have him instead of Joshua Thomas. Montgomery looks stronger and faster. I just hope he picks up the playbook well enough to be a good pass protector.
I think we won't have to worry about Warren getting too many carries, because of Montgomery earning more than even Thomas had last year.
I think we won't have to worry about Warren getting too many carries, because of Montgomery earning more than even Thomas had last year.
If the Arizona schools are really at play, (which I HIGHLY DOUBT they are)..... I am not sure why you would even want to take CU/CSU in the event that you could actually land Arizona and ASU.
In that scenario, I would recommend waiting for bigger fish from the P12. Utah/BYU might be an option down the road if the Arizona schools left, and you might hit the lottery if one or both of the Socal schools wanted out.
In that scenario, I would recommend waiting for bigger fish from the P12. Utah/BYU might be an option down the road if the Arizona schools left, and you might hit the lottery if one or both of the Socal schools wanted out.
This is my thought. I was never impressed with Joshua Thomas last year at all. I think we have 3 options that are better as a back up than him.
Seattle is a long damn way from anything else. When we drove from our place 60 miles north of Seattle to San Diego, it was nearly the same mileage as driving from Ames to Seattle.
Why would it be either/or? If AU, ASU, and CU all want in, find a way to grab all three.
People forget how big the west is. We drove to Boise for the bowl from Ames and Cheyenne was not quite halfway.
Second 9 win season. Insight Bowl team, 9-3 under DMAC.
