From a financial standpoint they're dead weight and worse than anyone that has been mentioned in tv ratings except maybe Tulane
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From a financial standpoint they're dead weight and worse than anyone that has been mentioned in tv ratings except maybe Tulane
demoncore1031
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I get that Fort Collins is a nice city and the Front Range is a great place to be, but there is a reason that CSU gets no nationally televised games and is dead last on this list.
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Just for fun, this would be my ideal scenario. Drop West Virginia and Baylor from the big 12. Add Oregon, Stanford, usc, ucla, Utah, Washington, Arizona, and Arizona state, to go to 16 teams and form a east and a west division. I think it seems plausible.
Great year. Made it to 9/10 games and it only cost 1 hay penny for a saspirilla.
Good luck not getting sued by West Virginia if we just "dropped" them. They have no place else to go. If the SEC or ACC wanted them they'd be there already. We're stuck with them for better or for worse.
It's is over 1500 miles from Tucson to UW in Seattle. And not much closer to Wazzu, Oregon or OSU - each over 1300 miles away.
Morgantown is 2000 miles, Ames is 1450, and every other Big 12 school is less than about 1100 miles.
If you can get the Arizona schools why ever go after BYU. Utah is nothing special either. Take the 2 AZ schools and see what else you can get.
There has been talk for sometime about the PAC 12 being unstable. So those schools could be very much in play.
I would prefer adding the two AZ schools and pausing. That gets us to twelve, CCG with two divisions and we can wait to see if another two become of interest or if WV goes to ACC (which seems logical long term) we could ways grab one of those non P5s if needed. Colorado bolted because they wanted to and is now a bad sports program. If Arkansas wants in for any reason you take them
Or Big 12 is going straight to 16 teams, which seems even less plausible than raiding the Pac-12.
And if it were to happen, how does B12 "jettison" WVU? Make deal w/ ACC/SEC? And how is that accomplished? (I'm not challenging your basic premise as much as asking what would happen).
You're right, it will never happen. When the PAC added Colorado and Utah and went to two divisions it was a war between the schools for which division to be in. Southern California recruiting is the lifeblood for those athletic programs. There is no way that Arizona and ASU are going to give up that connection to California. It would be death athletically for both programs.
While it would not be popular here, make a deal with the SEC and ACC to finish the 4x16 model.
Move OU and OSU to the SEC (no arguments from them)
Move WVU to the ACC to join with ND
Take UA, ASU, CU, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Utah, CSU
Big10 scoops up Oregon and Washington (not ideal geographically, but fit academically)
WSU, OSU, BYU, BSU form the backbone of a pretty strong MWC.
This was merely their past football coach suggesting they should be open to the idea. No one tied to current day UCLA has even shown an inkling of Big 12 interest.
If Arizona and ASU were to join, that would make the Allegiant DSM to Mesa flight pretty popular once a year!
S you don't think it had anything to do with the ACC's GOR extension and television network announcement the day before the B12 made that announcement? There isn't an article on this topic anywhere that doesn't tie timing to that announcement.
But it isn't like they called an emergency meeting to do so. It was the next planned meeting after the spring meetings. In the spring meetings they left with expansion to be on the agenda for the summer meeting. The interesting timing was the ACC announcing the TV deal right before the Big12 was scheduled to vote on expansion.
