It's not a myth. It's my opinion that there is a 0% chance than an undefeated P5 team is left out at the end of the year, regardless of whether it's Iowa or not.
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It's not a myth. It's my opinion that there is a 0% chance than an undefeated P5 team is left out at the end of the year, regardless of whether it's Iowa or not.
I think the Thanksgiving pairings of Baylor/TCU on 11/27 and OSU/OU on 11/28 was intentional.
Other than that, I can't imagine it was intentional. No one thought OSU was going to be that good this year.
You are making an assumption that no one else did. The point was that a 13-0 Iowa is not guaranteed to make the CFP, but you are assuming that Iowa would necessarily beat a 12-0 Ohio State to get there. This is not the case. Ohio State still has to beat Michigan State and Michigan in Ann Arbor to get to 12-0.
13-0 Iowa could very well get left out of the playoff without a marquee win if they beat an 11-1 or 10-2 team in Indianapolis (and knock them down to 2- or 3-loss territory). 13-0 Clemson, 12-0 Baylor/TCU, 13-0/12-1 LSU/Alabama, 11-1 Notre Dame are all in ahead of the Hawks.
It is intentional. Last year, one of the Big 12's two contenders dismantled a bad football team by 50+ in the last week and got punished with a three-spot drop by the committee for it. So the Big 12 is trying something new.
The only way I see an undefeated Iowa out is...
*Clemson wins out
*LSU wins out
*OSU/Baylor/TCU win out
(so these three are definitely in)
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*Notre Dame wins out, convincingly
*OSU, MSU, or Michigan limp into the Big Ten championship game with 1-2 losses
*the committee prefers a 1-loss ND with a strong schedule over an Iowa with a lame one
Ironically, Temple losing to Notre Dame might have kept Iowa out then?
Owls before Hawks?
*Clemson wins out
*LSU wins out
*OSU/Baylor/TCU win out
(so these three are definitely in)
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*Notre Dame wins out, convincingly
*OSU, MSU, or Michigan limp into the Big Ten championship game with 1-2 losses
*the committee prefers a 1-loss ND with a strong schedule over an Iowa with a lame one
Ironically, Temple losing to Notre Dame might have kept Iowa out then?
Owls before Hawks?
They dont? According to CyTwins law? Again, go look at who your golden teams have played. I know you have a tough schedule REMAINING, but as of today, no.
Look, YOU were the one that brought up Baylor and TCU. Im not saying Iowa's SOS is great, but its better than the two you brought into the conversation, with the only reasoning they are ranked higher is their "dominating" wins over power houses like S.F Austin, Rice, Texas, Kansa, Lamar, etc.
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No Iowa does not have a good SOS now and it will only get worse. Did I miss where I said TCU and Baylor have played a tough schedule to this point?
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And why is this troll bait in Football? Mods please move to GCS or ISR.
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I just re edited it to add- You brought baylor and tcu into the convo of being ranked lower than them because of how they dominated opponents. And Baylor and TCU have had laughably easy schedules to "dominate" with. I know it will change in the future, but as of today, thats how it is.
Here was the edit: Look, YOU were the one that brought up Baylor and TCU. Im not saying Iowa's SOS is great, but its better than the two you brought into the conversation, with the only reasoning they are ranked higher is their "dominating" wins over power houses like S.F Austin, Rice, Texas, Kansa, Lamar, etc.
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We need to realize a lot of this is factoring SOS up till now, depending on who keeps winning in the B12, that will push them to the top, and Iowa goes on to play, Indiana, Minnesota, and NU, none-of-which help their case.....
In the end I think this year will be one that causes more change to the playoff system.... I think those edge cases like Memphis, and Houston will be the really angry teams.... Will be interesting
In the end I think this year will be one that causes more change to the playoff system.... I think those edge cases like Memphis, and Houston will be the really angry teams.... Will be interesting
Baylor 104. Want to split the difference and admit that your "dominating" point is incorrect?
If only, IF ONLY the hawks in here could figure that out maybe they wouldn't pollute this thread so hard.
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How is my dominating point incorrect? Average margin of victory
Iowa - 17.3
TCU - 24.4
Baylor - 36
And you just called Iowa's schedule laughably easy not me
How do you know this? I'm sure the committee would love to have this intel when coming up with their ranks.
Mike and Mike had this exact convo this morning. They made the point, and correctly so IMO, that the new system that was supposed to be more "fair" for the field, but its the exact opposite. Its blue bloods all the way, and it aint even close. Youre right, and I completely agree. The Memphis and the Houstons of the world, are going to be ******, and rightfully so. This is what the whole playoff scenario was SUPPOSED to be about. Those undefeated, non P5 teams are getting crapped on. Agree also that this will spur change, and Id have to think an 8 game playoff would be the first step.
