If Haliburton Wins the NBA Finals This Year...

When is the ideal time to retire Tyrese Haliburton's jersey if the Pacers win the NBA Finals?

  • Get it done this year

    Votes: 46 16.1%
  • Within the next five years

    Votes: 34 11.9%
  • 2030 (roughly a decade after he left ISU)

    Votes: 29 10.2%
  • After he retires from the NBA

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • Only after retiring other players' jerseys who played before him (Niang, etc.)

    Votes: 79 27.7%
  • No ISU diploma, no jersey retirement (I'm Jamie Pollard)

    Votes: 83 29.1%

  • Total voters
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cycloner29

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I thought this was the ring of honor at Texas Tech?

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It doesn't have to be a jersey hanging from Hilton, but something will have to be thrown up to honor him. Great ambassador and supporter of ISU. It's a big deal for any program to have a superstar playing in the NBA. Isn't tough to remember Jordan played at NC or Shaq at LSU. Pays huge dividends for the schools having these connections. Recruiting, funding, fan interest. Be a good idea for ISU to stay tight with Tyrese.

He’s got a banner in Hilton right now. Tyrese seemed to be surprised and thankful for it.

The most important thing is we keep honoring him. Get him here for a football game this fall. Get him to any basketball games you can.
 

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I suppose one "advantage" with Tyrese to get a jersey-type honor is he continues to embrace ISU, even if he didn't play even 2 seasons.

I don't see a big need to rush the process. Several other possible players whose jersey status is pending in some way or another, I prefer they get there earlier. We can debate the who/when separately, already plenty of threads dedicated to that.
 

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Tom Brady's number isn't retired at Michigan, if his pro career isn't good enough to get his college number retired, no one's is. What they did after ISU should have no impact on ISU retiring their number. Tyrese was great at ISU but his resume here is short and not that impressive, really good but not one of the best to ever play here. There would be other 1 and 2 year guys we've had who would be more deserving based on what they did at ISU.
I wouldn’t want to follow Michigan’s lead on this. I can certainly see the argument for not jumping to honor someone who realistically didn’t do a ton while in college…but when you have one of the greatest of all time as a graduate, I think you retire his number. You sort of look stupid otherwise.

At this point I would wait to retire his number until his pro career is done though. If he finishes his degree at ISU and is a multiple time all-star, and some combination of NBA champion and league MVP or multiple of one or the other, we could talk about retiring it earlier.
 

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I suppose one "advantage" with Tyrese to get a jersey-type honor is he continues to embrace ISU, even if he didn't play even 2 seasons.

I don't see a big need to rush the process. Several other possible players whose jersey status is pending in some way or another, I prefer they get there earlier. We can debate the who/when separately, already plenty of threads dedicated to that.
Worth keeping in mind that Tyrese will also hopefully be back a couple more times to hang gold medal banners. He should be in line to have a more prominent role on the 2028 and 2032 Olympic teams.
 
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Some interesting facts:

  • Given the limited amount of jersey numbers the NCAA allows, ISU does not retire jersey numbers, just jerseys.
  • There are only 2 requirements you must meet to be eligible to have your ISU jersey retired: must be in ISU Hall of Fame, and must graduate from ISU.
  • Only 7 men's basketball players have had their jersey retired.
  • Only one football player (Mike Cox) has had his jersey retired.
That last fact really amazed me. You could probably win a lot of bar bets with that trivia question.

Wonder if Brock Purdy will be the second football player to get his jersey retired. Besides being a star in the NFL, he broke every ISU QB record in existence.
That used to be case, but is no longer. The NCAA used to only allow one or two digit numbers with only 1-5 used. Due to a recent change the NCAA has mostly mirrored the NBA in allowing 0-99 including 00. However in the NCAA a team can't have both a 0 and a 00 while in the NBA they can.

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Earlier this year the Pacers set an NBA first by having a starting lineup of Haliburton, Mathurin, Toppin, Nembhard and Bryant. Why was that an NBA first? Because it was an all time low of jersey number sums. 0+00+1+2+3=6
 

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That used to be case, but is no longer. The NCAA used to only allow one or two digit numbers with only 1-5 used. Due to a recent change the NCAA has mostly mirrored the NBA in allowing 0-99 including 00. However in the NCAA a team can't have both a 0 and a 00 while in the NBA they can.

B1.CBKB-Numbers1-e1699426548715.jpg


Earlier this year the Pacers set an NBA first by having a starting lineup of Haliburton, Mathurin, Toppin, Nembhard and Bryant. Why was that an NBA first? Because it was an all time low of jersey number sums. 0+00+1+2+3=6

The software the NCAA uses for statistics sees both #0 and #00 just as “0.” Hence, the rule you can have one but not both came to be.
 
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That used to be case, but is no longer. The NCAA used to only allow one or two digit numbers with only 1-5 used. Due to a recent change the NCAA has mostly mirrored the NBA in allowing 0-99 including 00. However in the NCAA a team can't have both a 0 and a 00 while in the NBA they can.

B1.CBKB-Numbers1-e1699426548715.jpg


Earlier this year the Pacers set an NBA first by having a starting lineup of Haliburton, Mathurin, Toppin, Nembhard and Bryant. Why was that an NBA first? Because it was an all time low of jersey number sums. 0+00+1+2+3=6
Interesting! But what will happens next when they have a 55 and an 88? The 88 will keep the refs busy, unless he doesn't foul.
 

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Surprised nobody corrected me when I said the NCAA used to only allow one and two digit numbers with 1-5 used. Actually it was 0-5 but you couldn't use 0 as a first number or alone.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. That's 35 numbers. (They previously doubled the available combinations when they stopped alternating odds and evens for road/home jerseys. So a player might wear 1 at home and then 2 on the road. His teammate then would wear 3 at home and 4 on the road and so on.) Now with 00 and 0-99 there are 101 numbers available - almost three times as many.

For some rugby clubs in history their players wore letters rather than numbers for a time. I could see at some point letters being added for football, probably initially just single letters to avoid the possibility of something being interpreted or pronounced as profane (FK, FU?). It might be a tough add for basketball unless all referees and scorer's table personnel learned the ASL alphabet. That could add 26 but more likely 23 if they excluded I, O, and Q to avoid confusion with 1 and 0. They might even have to exclude D and B to avoid confusion with 0 and 8.
 

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Surprised nobody corrected me when I said the NCAA used to only allow one and two digit numbers with 1-5 used. Actually it was 0-5 but you couldn't use 0 as a first number or alone.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. That's 35 numbers. (They previously doubled the available combinations when they stopped alternating odds and evens for road/home jerseys. So a player might wear 1 at home and then 2 on the road. His teammate then would wear 3 at home and 4 on the road and so on.) Now with 00 and 0-99 there are 101 numbers available - almost three times as many.

0 and 00 have been legal numbers longer than 1 and 2 have. The only caveat was (and is) that you couldn't have both. So there were 37 legal numbers overall, but with 0/00 being an either-or, it was effectively 36 legal numbers.

1 and 2 were discouraged from 1927-57, then outright prohibited from 1958-99. This was likely because those were commonly used in other officials' signals.

Home was usually evens (10, 12, 14) with road being odds (11, 13, 15). If you watch the Phi Slamma Jamma 30 for 30, you can see Houston still doing it well into the 1980s. High schools did it forever; thankfully, I think most have finally stopped using the dual number setup.
 
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0 and 00 have been legal numbers longer than 1 and 2 have. The only caveat was (and is) that you couldn't have both. So there were 37 legal numbers overall, but with 0/00 being an either-or, it was effectively 36 legal numbers.

1 and 2 were discouraged from 1927-57, then outright prohibited from 1958-99. This was likely because those were commonly used in other officials' signals.

Home was usually evens (10, 12, 14) with road being odds (11, 13, 15). If you watch the Phi Slamma Jamma 30 for 30, you can see Houston still doing it well into the 1980s. High schools did it forever; thankfully, I think most have finally stopped using the dual number setup.
Yeah, you are right. I always forget about that and confuse the FB addition of #0 with basketball's.