How close was it?

Go2Guy

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The reason the yardage was close is because our O kept giving them a short field.

This game wasn't even close to being *close*.
 

rebecacy

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Does anyone think Texas looked all that faster than ISU?
I don't.
I had to get up and move. This idiot cyclone fan first came into section 9 right behind me and declares in a loud voice that everyone needs to sit down and stay seated so he can see the game. The lady next to me turned and said "I got news for you.......you may want to hurry home to your TV because this is a huge game and everyone is standing. Then he says oh look that was the wildcat formation when it wasn't and then after every play he said something to the effect of how much bigger, faster and more physical TX was than us. I went to the grass and sat with some fans that knew football.
 

rebecacy

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The sky isn't falling. Take a look at how close the game really was. Did anyone feel we were outmanned in this one? The only glaring thing I saw was our O-line didn't handle blitzes well so Superman was on the run all night. Otherwise I saw two very even teams battling it out. The difference? ISU was playing Russian Roulette and putting 6 bullets in instead of 1.
1. Yardage was nearly equal.
2. Eliminate the mistakes (i.e. turnovers) and you take 13 points off the board for them and add at least 7 to ours.
3. Two penalties cost us 14 points. You simply can't take points off the board. In one case Money was holding when it did make any difference. In another the catch was made because of a huge pushoff. So we are talking at least 7 points to our favor here. Add Money's other hold during the long run and you have potential for more.
4. LJ's stupid personal foul on 3rd down followed by a blown pass coverage for another 7.
It all comes down to mistakes and mental errors. We aren't as bad as a 37-14 score indicates. Yet, if we don't value the ball more and become smarter on the field we'll see more of the same.

Big questions remain - what is the depth at tackle on the O-line? Who replaces LJ? Can we find a kicker that can actually make one?
it was 34-0 at half-time, we got our ***** handed to us.
 

JUKEBOX

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David Irving made the Texas players look like children. I can't wait until he has a couple of years in the weight room added to him.
 

mikem

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Mack wanted a big win. He wanted to run it up.

My God, UT is running double reverse pass plays against Iowa State, and you think that he didn't want to run up a score?

He wanted 50, he got 37. 27 of it was directly a result of Iowa State mistakes. It reminded me so much of a mac the mediocre game.

Look at how it happened. We go out quickly with negative yards. They drive the ball down our throats. Mack will kick that fg against OU if he had the choice. But he was trying to make a statement against us.

We stuff the run, and then gain 20 yards on offense. Then we fumble. The next time the offense takes the field, they are down 10-0. We gain yards again on offense. Then an int that gives them another short field.

What is it with the general stupidity of the posters on here after a loss? We failed because we didn't give ourselves a chance to win. That was the problem. The reasons it happened are because of things that this staff needs to correct, which is their job.

Yes it is a problem, and we mccarney embarrassed ourselves Saturday. Now, it needs to be corrected.

But UT wanted a BIG win, don't kid yourselves for a second that they didn't want to put 50-60 on the board.
 

Wardecker

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I don't know if anyone noticed, but Texas actually pulled back their offense in in the second half. They used much of their plays to break and skew the tendancy charts OU and future opponents will use to figure their gameplans against Texas. if you recorded the game, go back and look and the differences. On defense, they substituted alot of young, fresh players in for experience and rotated in several combinations of players to get a look at possibilities.
 

Yes13

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I feel like if we played Texas this week we could/would beat them. We didn't really lose because Texas dominated us. We lost because we played stupid, careless football. Texas played smart disciplined football, and they proved they were better than Iowa/Uconn. They made us pay for our mistakes, they're a solid team, but I still don't feel like they are far and away better than us like the score indicated.

If we play smart we are a damn good football team, too bad that 'if' seems less and less likely as the season goes on.
 

cyfan15

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I don't know if anyone noticed, but Texas actually pulled back their offense in in the second half. They used much of their plays to break and skew the tendancy charts OU and future opponents will use to figure their gameplans against Texas. if you recorded the game, go back and look and the differences. On defense, they substituted alot of young, fresh players in for experience and rotated in several combinations of players to get a look at possibilities.

This is very true and gets overlooked. That said, both teams would have played this game differently if ISU had made even half of the mistakes they made last night.

ISU had three turnovers in the first quarter and was only down 13-0. We had 3rd and 4 on the Texas 6 and KO got a false start penalty. Naturally, we didn't convert on 3rd and 9 and missed the field goal attempt. A touchdown there makes it a six point game with ISU having the momentum.

ISU forced Texas into a punting situation on the next drive, but LJ head butted Shipley, kept the Texas offense on the field, and the Horns made us pay for it on the very next play.

Had we not committed those two penalties, it's very possible that ISU would have had the ball back down 13-7 with a chance to take the lead despite three first quarter turnovers. Instead, it was 20-0 Texas and the game was basically over. The blocked punt later made it official.

We basically had five turnovers in the first half if you count the blocked punt and the head butt penalty. Five turnovers plus a missed field goal in one half against a top 25 team equals no chance. I'm not going to say we would have won if this or that hadn't happened, but I do know that we can and should be way better than what we showed.
 

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On another note, I hate to be a conspiratist, but it sure seems the refs are suppose to know who is going to win this game and they add a flag here to help the cause. The red river shoot out might not be as hyped if Texas got beat by ISU.

I don't think we played good enough to win and not blaming it on the refs by any means, but there were some calls not called for us and some calls called against us witch were horse pucky.

I felt the exact same way. We beat our selves, but there was a darn good reason that the fans were expressing their anger like they did saturday night.
 

jburke

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We got it handed to us, but mostly by beating ourselves early with stupid mistakes, 3 turnovers in the first quarter, you will never win a game against any decent team with that stat. Than you throw in a blocked punt for a TD and the is too deep for any team to fight back from unless the other team is making the same mistakes(which they weren't). LJ's un-sportsmanlike call was one of the biggest momentum changes I have ever seen on a non-scoring play.... I will add that we beat ourselves more in this game than Texas beat us, they did know how to seize on the opportunities though. But also believe that any bright moment was quickly overshadowed by a costly unforeseen ridiculous penalty call (Darks Pass-interference 'defender fell down with no contact', Money's holding on White's run)..... Statistically it was close, but between the helmets that dominated.....
 

agcy68

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The sky isn't falling. Take a look at how close the game really was. Did anyone feel we were outmanned in this one? The only glaring thing I saw was our O-line didn't handle blitzes well so Superman was on the run all night. Otherwise I saw two very even teams battling it out. The difference? ISU was playing Russian Roulette and putting 6 bullets in instead of 1.
1. Yardage was nearly equal.
2. Eliminate the mistakes (i.e. turnovers) and you take 13 points off the board for them and add at least 7 to ours.
3. Two penalties cost us 14 points. You simply can't take points off the board. In one case Money was holding when it did make any difference. In another the catch was made because of a huge pushoff. So we are talking at least 7 points to our favor here. Add Money's other hold during the long run and you have potential for more.
4. LJ's stupid personal foul on 3rd down followed by a blown pass coverage for another 7.
It all comes down to mistakes and mental errors. We aren't as bad as a 37-14 score indicates. Yet, if we don't value the ball more and become smarter on the field we'll see more of the same.

Big questions remain - what is the depth at tackle on the O-line? Who replaces LJ? Can we find a kicker that can actually make one?

Go back and watch the replay. Darks nevery extended his arm against the defender - the defeneder tripped over his own feet and got bailed out by the official. That was a terrible call!
 

acoustimac

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Taking refuge in numbers is what the losers do. Football is more than just statistics, it's even more than pure execution.

I watched the game from beginning to end and I can tell you that our team has some problems the coaching staff need to address. Some of these problems have been with us from the start of the season. I knew we could not sustain our momentum based on the way we had played and figured a good team like Texas would expose our weaknesses more starkly than UNI, Iowa or UConn.

We have a good team, but if we are going bowling this year, they'll have to get out of their own way.

Personally, I don't believe I'm a loser. I'm a realist. The problems you noticed are probably the same ones I mentioned...lack of depth, no kicker etc. Is taking refuge in knowing we have problems also what losers do? Just kidding...lol.
 

acoustimac

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Go back and watch the replay. Darks nevery extended his arm against the defender - the defeneder tripped over his own feet and got bailed out by the official. That was a terrible call!

Wish I could see the replay. I just glanced downfield with the pass and in the heat of action it "appeared" Darks had pushed off. It was the only explanation for the guy flying backwards. Your explanation makes a lot of sense for what I saw.
 

justcynn

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1. Iowa state did not help themselves
2. Texas beat Iowa state
3. Iowa state did not beat themselves
4. With a 3 game win streak many of you sound like hawkfans
 

wsrgohawks

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Mack wanted a big win. He wanted to run it up.

My God, UT is running double reverse pass plays against Iowa State, and you think that he didn't want to run up a score?


But UT wanted a BIG win, don't kid yourselves for a second that they didn't want to put 50-60 on the board.

When does a team NOT want to put 50 or 60 points on the scoreboard? You don't honestly think Texas was out for revenge from last year, do you? Texas lost 7 games last year; I don't think they're going to single out Iowa State as a "revenge" game. Iowa State beat the worst Texas team in nearly 25 years last year. Not the big deal it's made out to be.
 

mikem

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When does a team NOT want to put 50 or 60 points on the scoreboard? You don't honestly think Texas was out for revenge from last year, do you? Texas lost 7 games last year; I don't think they're going to single out Iowa State as a "revenge" game. Iowa State beat the worst Texas team in nearly 25 years last year. Not the big deal it's made out to be.


You know when I opened this up, and saw who had the last post I thought "wow this is going to be stupid" Thanks for not letting me down.

Yeah, Mack didn't want to make a statement. Right?

I guess I shouldn't argue with you though, your credentials are superior to everyone's on here. Except that you apparently learned NOTHING.

Hey I live not too far from Waverly, let's get together sometime. I would love to talk football with you. I am sure that I could learn something since you are so well versed and knowledgeable.

What a joke you are.
 

wsrgohawks

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You know when I opened this up, and saw who had the last post I thought "wow this is going to be stupid" Thanks for not letting me down.

Yeah, Mack didn't want to make a statement. Right?

I guess I shouldn't argue with you though, your credentials are superior to everyone's on here. Except that you apparently learned NOTHING.

Hey I live not too far from Waverly, let's get together sometime. I would love to talk football with you. I am sure that I could learn something since you are so well versed and knowledgeable.

What a joke you are.

You make an excellent point, Mike. You refuted my previous point with impeccable reasoning and arguing skills, ensuring everyone on this board knows that you are indeed the greatest football mind the modern world has ever known.

And while I would love to get together sometimes and learn from the "Aristotle of College Football," I don't live in Waverly anymore, and haven't for quite some time :sad:. Maybe you can provide something of relevance to a topic on a message board to show me your expertise, considering that is the point of a message board. Come to think of it, that is something I have rarely, if ever, seen you do. Maybe I should just be content with waiting for you to point out the next "sheep" the U of I has brainwashed. :rolleyes:
 

Wardecker

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Personally, I don't believe I'm a loser. I'm a realist. The problems you noticed are probably the same ones I mentioned...lack of depth, no kicker etc. Is taking refuge in knowing we have problems also what losers do? Just kidding...lol.

Well, I appreciate the humor, but I was not calling YOU a loser. I meant those who are the losing side of contests tend to try to find the answers in pouring over the numbers. I can see -- based on how I worded the statement -- how you would think I was making a personal comment, I was not and I'm sorry you might have thought I was.
 

Doc

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I was at the game and was ****** that both of these penalties were called and after watching the game today I am even MORE ****** that Money got called for holding on White touchdown and Darks got called for a push off!
*Money PLANTED his guy! If that is holding, everything is a hold
*Darks didn't even make first contact. The corner came up and made contact and then fell to the ground acting like he was hurt! :realmad:

Money only got called for holding because the Texas DBs were weak. He was owning those guys.
 

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