What makes you think it still can't be special? The players might respond to TJ(or the new coach) very well. I still think we end the year a Top 15 team next season. Too damn talented. I'm not even sure McDermott could screw up next years squad.
Hoiberg Watch 2015: Sunday, May 31 Open Thread
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<sigh>...no, dummy, I don't think it would stop him, and I never said it would...You were the one saying he was breaking his contract. I was merely pointing out that his contract had a specific provision that would allow, for a fee, a way out of the contract. Fred simply exercised it. My point was, stop saying he's breaking his contract, he's not. He's simply exercising the clause that was put in there because, as you say, Fred was in demand, and demanded that it be in there...so then, by extension...he's doing exactly what he said he might well do. Be mad at him for leaving, be mad at him for whatever, but do not say he was breaking his contract.
Because the nature of how his NBA job search is playing out (IMO based on the information that has been presented) has hurt and is hurting the ISU MBB program, which is a failure to carry out his fiduciary duties as a party in a contract (unless there is a clause in his contract excusing him from said duties). My previous post may have been worded badly; I don't believe that taking or searching for an NBA job is a contract violation, as long as said job search does not damage ISU MBB.
It's Hoiberg's responsibility to assure that his job search doesn't disrupt ISU MBB. That hasn't happened. This present saga has gone on beyond what is reasonable. ISU's season ended in mid-March; it's soon to be June, and Hoiberg hasn't confirmed whether he will be ISU MBB coach for 2015-2016. ISU can't move forward (apart from firing Hoiberg) with a coaching search. It is unfortunate that Hoiberg's dream job didn't open up sooner, but that shouldn't be ISU's problem, but now it is.
Here is a quick update on a few of the more popular topics being discussed, in a highly filtered state given the fluidity of things...
1 - It is expected that the announcement of Fred to Chicago will be either late tomorrow or Tuesday. My bet would be on Tuesday based on the position of those that are saying Tuesday behind the scenes.
2 - Despite rumors to the contrary, no decision or offer has been made on a replacement coach, I know that for a fact. There are said to be 4 candidates under heaviest consideration and back-channel, high-level discussions continue to evolve with representatives of each. I feel that a decision will be made this week based on various discussions.
3 - I continue to hear grumbling about the financials involved and the reluctance to shell out the necessary funds, but it's all speculation since JP and Leath are the only two that really know what they're willing to go up to and for whom. FWIW, I do think money is going to play a bigger factor in the decision than many would like - though that should in no way be taken as a suggestion on who I think the replacement will be.
4 - There is a lot of continued chatter about several discussed names (i.e. Hornacek, TJ, and even Floyd) but also a surprising level of talk about some other lesser considered options. None of the information is good enough that I want to add speculation, but I do feel better about the level of search being conducted, though there are still clear concerns about the parameters involved (i.e. money).
5 - I continue to hear very positive things about how the team is sticking together and using this as further motivation to regroup from how the season ended. The assistant coaching staff has done a remarkable job keeping everybody focused on basketball in the huge vacuum created without Fred communicating on a regular basis.
1 - It is expected that the announcement of Fred to Chicago will be either late tomorrow or Tuesday. My bet would be on Tuesday based on the position of those that are saying Tuesday behind the scenes.
2 - Despite rumors to the contrary, no decision or offer has been made on a replacement coach, I know that for a fact. There are said to be 4 candidates under heaviest consideration and back-channel, high-level discussions continue to evolve with representatives of each. I feel that a decision will be made this week based on various discussions.
3 - I continue to hear grumbling about the financials involved and the reluctance to shell out the necessary funds, but it's all speculation since JP and Leath are the only two that really know what they're willing to go up to and for whom. FWIW, I do think money is going to play a bigger factor in the decision than many would like - though that should in no way be taken as a suggestion on who I think the replacement will be.
4 - There is a lot of continued chatter about several discussed names (i.e. Hornacek, TJ, and even Floyd) but also a surprising level of talk about some other lesser considered options. None of the information is good enough that I want to add speculation, but I do feel better about the level of search being conducted, though there are still clear concerns about the parameters involved (i.e. money).
5 - I continue to hear very positive things about how the team is sticking together and using this as further motivation to regroup from how the season ended. The assistant coaching staff has done a remarkable job keeping everybody focused on basketball in the huge vacuum created without Fred communicating on a regular basis.
I keep telling myself and also some family and friends that this is likely but really makes me feel good to see it from you.
Thanks, Jeremy, I've been sifting through all the muck on here waiting for info from either you or CW. Your intel has always been an asset to your fellow cyclones.
I know you have your sources.. (though every source has their own motivations) and we're all thankful for your information, but one way or another if it is TJ, i think a lot will have a hard time believing this
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He didn't bail, he was honest with us and himself on what he could/couldn't do here. He should be applauded for that type of courage.
Im not sure what this is supposed to even mean. He could have done plenty here. He was nowhere near the limit of that.
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