Happy Days Are Here Again...Except for that elephant in the room....

[cyfanatic1968]

New Plan - add Memphis and Cincinnati to the conference:

Big 12 North:
ISU, KU, KSU, WVU, CINCI, Memphis

Big 12 South:
UT, BU, OU, OSU, TT, TCU

It'd also be arguably the best basketball conference in the nation.

 

[cyfanatic1968]

Was it the schedule this year that lost winnable games against Iowa, Toledo and KSU?

Thanks for 'Popping' in quick observation, see you again next year.

This could have been an exceptional year...no doubt. You must've missed the "YEAR OVER YEAR OVER THE LONGHAUL" part.

 

[IAStubborn]

It ain't that tough a schedule. Find something new to cry about.

No it is actually. And it is the biggest obstacle for us in gaining a foothold and momentum. You can deny this or gloss over it but it's a big deal. It's a tough basketball league too, except we are good at basketball. Can we get good enough? Sure but it is hard being the only big 12 school in big 10 country.

 

[Jsievers24]

New Plan - add Memphis and Cincinnati to the conference:

Big 12 North:
ISU, KU, KSU, WVU, CINCI, Memphis

Big 12 South:
UT, BU, OU, OSU, TT, TCU

It'd also be arguably the best basketball conference in the nation.

Big12 North is pretty weak there.

 

[Spam]

New Plan - add Memphis and Cincinnati to the conference:

Big 12 North:
ISU, KU, KSU, WVU, CINCI, Memphis

Big 12 South:
UT, BU, OU, OSU, TT, TCU

It'd also be arguably the best basketball conference in the nation.

It's already arguably the best basketball conference in the nation.

FB wise, once we start consistently winning games easier than Memphis and Cincy, then we think about how Memphis and Cincy might help us avoid some of those tougher South teams.

 

[CycloneErik]

No it is actually. And it is the biggest obstacle for us in gaining a foothold and momentum. You can deny this or gloss over it but it's a big deal. It's a tough basketball league too, except we are good at basketball. Can we get good enough? Sure but it is hard being the only big 12 school in big 10 country.

No, it really isn't. Our biggest obstacle was poor decision making from the coaching staff, and that just cleared out.

We blame the games against the southern schools while ignoring that we failed against the northern ones as well. Poor decisions cost games against one northern and one southern school, plus one non-con game. That's not even thinking anything about the Iowa game.

The schedule wasn't the problem. We have been the problem. That's something we can fix, and then the schedule isn't an excuse anymore.

 

[cyfanatic1968]

Sure Erik...

Second toughest P5 coaching job.....sure - it ain't the schedule or recruiting or geography etc....
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...weekly-five-toughest-power-five-coaching-jobs

Nothing to see here folks....New guy coming in will change everything - I heard this 7 years ago. Like I said I'll keep buying tickets, tailgating, and hoping for the best. I'm just a realist now.

Like I said - it could've been a one of the few EXCEPTIONS of a year this year but over the longhaul in this conference set up we lose badly.

 

[Spam]

Sure Erik...

Second toughest P5 coaching job.....sure - it ain't the schedule or recruiting or geography etc....
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...weekly-five-toughest-power-five-coaching-jobs

Nothing to see here folks....New guy coming in will change everything - I heard this 7 years ago. Like I said I'll keep buying tickets, tailgating, and hoping for the best. I'm just a realist now.

Like I said - it could've been a one of the few EXCEPTIONS of a year but over the longhaul in this conference set up we lose badly.

What's the point of trying to replace OU with Cincy on our schedule when we've been losing to teams like Toledo, UNI, NDSU, KU over the last few years.

 

[bosco]

It's B12 football, it's not the BIG. It's man's game. You can deal with it, adapt and overcome or cry and use it as an excuse.

 

[SerenityNow]

Sure, expanding the conference, getting four non con games will ultimately make our schedule easier, but it's not going to happen. These threads made sense 4 years ago when we were going through all the **** with realignment, but not now.

That said, I still believe we can be better than we have been, win more games with this change.

 

[isulive2train]

LOL...I suppose there are 4 TX teams and 2 OK teams that sure don't mind it.

Are you truly laughing out loud? Or crying out loud?

 

[chuckd4735]

No it is actually. And it is the biggest obstacle for us in gaining a foothold and momentum. You can deny this or gloss over it but it's a big deal. It's a tough basketball league too, except we are good at basketball. Can we get good enough? Sure but it is hard being the only big 12 school in big 10 country.

The schedule is not what is holding us back right now. Poor coaching held us back this season. There were 6 games in which we had a lead in at some point and lost. Of those 6 games, Iowa (at home) was tied with 2:15 left, Toledo should of never gone to OT, we had the lead against OSU (at home) with 3:30 left, and we had no business losing to KSU.

Now if ISU can get to 6-8 wins each season, and not be able to go any higher, then we can talk about how the schedule is holding us back. Right now, we cant.

 

[cyfanatic1968]

It's B12 football, it's not the BIG. It's man's game. You can deal with it, adapt and overcome or cry and use it as an excuse.

Hoo Rah! Toughen up men!

 

[00clone]

Every other team in the conference plays this schedule as well, and you dont see them ******** about it everyday.

Not true...everyone else has gotten to play Iowa State the last few years. Replace one Big12 team on our schedule with a cupcake and it gets a little easier.

semi

 

[KnappShack]

Don't expand the Big 12. Let's just drop out to get the easiest schedule possible. Why even try to compete in the Big 12 or even give the new coach a bit of a honeymoon?!?

ISU to the Sun Belt!

 

[19clone91]

People and the media complaining about ISU not being able to succeed in the modern Big 12 are down right wrong.

This year we were 1 play away in 4 games from being 7-5 THIS YEAR.
-Any number of boneheaded plays in Iowa (Iowa not getting that fumble touchdown, Richardson not throwing pick at end, etc)
-Field goal at end of Toledo
-Any number of plays in OSU
-You all know KState

2014 we were 1 play away in 3 games from being 5-7
-The BS phantom interception against K State
-all we needed was one defensive play against Texas
-End of the Texas Tech Game

2013 We were 1 play away in 5 games from being 8-4
-We could have scored at the end to beat UNI if we had decent clock management
-Iowa ending
-The BS Jeremiah George fumble against Texas
-Terrible clock management again to lose at the end of Texas Tech by 7
-TCU


I obviously don't expect to win every close game, but as you can see we have been VERY IN games in the current Big 12. CPR can shut his mouth and stop whining about how the current setup is bad for ISU. Would we do better in an easier conference? Yes. But we can also win in the Big 12 with the talent we have, and this prove it. We just need a coach who wont shoot his players and staff in the foot

 

[inCyteful]

This could have been an exceptional year...no doubt. You must've missed the "YEAR OVER YEAR OVER THE LONGHAUL" part.

No I got it, because year over year we do the same stupid stuff. This coaching staff didn't just take a dumb pill for this year.

But I get it. Your path to success relies on weaker competition and scheduling non-con patsies. Then we can head to a bowl game with a record of 6-6 and lose to Tulsa. Yee ******* ha.

 

[xr4ticlone]

It ain't that tough a schedule. Find something new to cry about.

The problem with ISU's schedule is that we play good teams almost every week. There is no down time, games where you can run a limited O to hold back plays for 'better teams'. That's greatly compounded by ISU's recruiting disadvantage of being the N school in a S conference where all the recruits are from. You can't expect 2* and 3* kids to be ready to face 4* and 5* kids after only a year or two in your program. Due to injuries and such that's the boat ISU often throws guys into.

I'm not saying it's impossible...BUT I'd caution anyone that thinks coaching changes is somehow going to make us B12 contenders.

 

[cyfanatic1968]

No I got it, because year over year we do the same stupid stuff. This coaching staff didn't just take a dumb pill for this year.

But I get it. Your path to success relies on weaker competition and scheduling non-con patsies. Then we can head to a bowl game with a record of 6-6 and lose to Tulsa. Yee ******* ha.

I'm not making this stuff up...Firstly read-up on how Snyder turned around KSU.
Second we are definitely in the top 5 hardest P5 jobs...#2 according to this article - you think they just pulled ISU out of their arse and ranked them #2?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...weekly-five-toughest-power-five-coaching-jobs

WE HAVE TO GET TO A BOWL GAME AND THAT MEANS 6 WINS. A bowl game gives us another 1.5months of practice, more exposure and improved recruiting.

 

[isulive2train]

I think the world is ending.