Good MBB article from Travis Hines

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I think we're all pulling for Lewis, sounds like he'll get first bite at the apple for PT.If LW is back, all this team will really need is a guard/wing off the bench and Prohm would have the 7-8 man rotation he likes.

I really liked hearing they'll try to mix things up with the big guys. Solo and Mike could both play alongside Conditt if needed and Zion could bring that small ball element. Being versatile will be nice.

If LW is back, bringing in Frenchie and a sit out guard would be a perfect setup for '20, especially if Prohm can land Foster.
 

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Matt A. has a tremendous amount of respect for ISU and leaving Ames wasn't an easy choice for him.

Then why did he and hoiberg (in my opinion) leak the Hawaii story which hurt Iowa State tremendously?
 

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Then why did he and hoiberg (in my opinion) leak the Hawaii story which hurt Iowa State tremendously?

Neither one of them leaked it. Look at the timeline and it’s fairly clear that it was another member of that former staff.
And so your theory is that CFH leaked the story so he could turn around and publicly say it wasn’t true a day later. What exactly would have been Fred’s incentive to do that? I know you hate him but come on.
 

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There is definitely a trend of Prohm talking about how he thought about doing something sooner or should have made a change or kept things the same that were working after the fact.

The honesty is great. The repeated retrospect and not acting on things in the moment isn't.
He is good at saying all the things that the fans want to hear
 

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According to some on here it wasn't his choice because of some of his recruiting tactics. Is that wrong? I would love to know.

He knew Fred was heading to the NBA, & the St John’s job (his alma mater, his home) came open. Why wouldn’t he take that?

Look ...I wanted to throw up while listening to the press conference yesterday as much as many of you... but I swear the crap some of our fan base is spewing whether it be at Fred or Matt or whomever is just sad. Why can’t we take a page from Coach Prohms book and handle this with class??? Is that really too much to ask?
 

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Neither one of them leaked it. Look at the timeline and it’s fairly clear that it was another member of that former staff.
And so your theory is that CFH leaked the story so he could turn around and publicly say it wasn’t true a day later. What exactly would have been Fred’s incentive to do that? I know you hate him but come on.

With Hines' nearly double digit sources, there is a chance Cornell and Matt were both yapping.
 
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But then, I thought Prohm's decisions on playing time were weird all season. The will-he-or-won't-he-play question with Lard most games, Conditt, THT arguably being given way too much latitude even when he struggled. None probably huge issues individually, but I'd like a little less drama on that front next season.

My biggest issue was his stubbornness, and lack of creativity in the substitution pattern. I get if he doesn't want to start LW, because the original 5 are more ideal matchups, and he never knew which THT he was going to get, but when it's obvious early that THT, or someone else, is struggling, then the sooner you get them out, the better. Yet, EVERY game he would wait. And not just till the first media timeout. It was almost always not till the first dead ball after the first media timeout.

I get it, you don't want to crush a kids confidence by pulling him right after a missed shot, but if there's turnovers, and the shots being taken are not in the gameplan, then get him out. No one says they have to sit the rest of the game, but sit them down, let an assistant coach talk to them, and then try them again later.

For me, the most glaring display of this was against Ohio St. THT struggled in the first half, and Wigginton played well. Yet at the start of the second half it was THT out there. I can't remember the exact sequences, but he had a bad shot, got burnt on defense, and had a couple bad turnovers. Prohm knew he didn't have it that game, and should have had LW out there instead.
 

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My biggest issue was his stubbornness, and lack of creativity in the substitution pattern. I get if he doesn't want to start LW, because the original 5 are more ideal matchups, and he never knew which THT he was going to get, but when it's obvious early that THT, or someone else, is struggling, then the sooner you get them out, the better. Yet, EVERY game he would wait. And not just till the first media timeout. It was almost always not till the first dead ball after the first media timeout.

I get it, you don't want to crush a kids confidence by pulling him right after a missed shot, but if there's turnovers, and the shots being taken are not in the gameplan, then get him out. No one says they have to sit the rest of the game, but sit them down, let an assistant coach talk to them, and then try them again later.

For me, the most glaring display of this was against Ohio St. THT struggled in the first half, and Wigginton played well. Yet at the start of the second half it was THT out there. I can't remember the exact sequences, but he had a bad shot, got burnt on defense, and had a couple bad turnovers. Prohm knew he didn't have it that game, and should have had LW out there instead.

LW played more minutes than THT against KSU, KU, and Ohio State. Prohm was quick about yanking the “bad THT” quickly.
 

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My biggest issue was his stubbornness, and lack of creativity in the substitution pattern. I get if he doesn't want to start LW, because the original 5 are more ideal matchups, and he never knew which THT he was going to get, but when it's obvious early that THT, or someone else, is struggling, then the sooner you get them out, the better. Yet, EVERY game he would wait. And not just till the first media timeout. It was almost always not till the first dead ball after the first media timeout.

I get it, you don't want to crush a kids confidence by pulling him right after a missed shot, but if there's turnovers, and the shots being taken are not in the gameplan, then get him out. No one says they have to sit the rest of the game, but sit them down, let an assistant coach talk to them, and then try them again later.

For me, the most glaring display of this was against Ohio St. THT struggled in the first half, and Wigginton played well. Yet at the start of the second half it was THT out there. I can't remember the exact sequences, but he had a bad shot, got burnt on defense, and had a couple bad turnovers. Prohm knew he didn't have it that game, and should have had LW out there instead.
I agree with you. I'm a huge Prohm supporter but would like him to be more flexible on who starts games and/or the 2nd half. I just don't understand that. But, I've wondered about other line-up things like that, especially early in the years, but we always seem to be running well late in the season - the late slump this year, notwithstanding - so it seems he has a plan, and it's usually worked. There was a lot to manage this year with injuries, Lard, etc..

There were different things I've questioned about every ISU coach since I've been paying attention (since Johnny). But, when the coach has success, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also, for what it's worth, I live in the Twin Cities and know a coach that's very connected to the BB scene up here - AAU, HS, Timberwolves, etc. He told me a couple years ago that ISU was outbid for Rashad Vaughn. He put the $ at close to $200k. I have no idea if it's true. This is not a close friend, but I can only say that the coach has never told me anything else that is outlandish or that I questioned re: its veracity. It did bother me that ISU would be playing that game - maybe all are; I don't know. Again, take it for what it's worth.
 

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LW played more minutes than THT against KSU, KU, and Ohio State. Prohm was quick about yanking the “bad THT” quickly.
He played more minutes than THT many times, but I'll still say there was times, particularly against Ohio St, that THT should not have been out there to start the second half. I'm not saying that alone cost the game, but you could definitely set a different tone by starting LW in the second half.

I think THT treated it as the start of a new game, and went out and made the same mistakes he did to start that game. What I think should have been done, is start LW in the second half, and bring in THT later. At least then if he makes a mistake, you can pull him quicker. Rather than waiting the 5-6 minutes to start the half, like Prohm always did.
 

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I agree with you. I'm a huge Prohm supporter but would like him to be more flexible on who starts games and/or the 2nd half. I just don't understand that. But, I've wondered about other line-up things like that, especially early in the years, but we always seem to be running well late in the season - the late slump this year, notwithstanding - so it seems he has a plan, and it's usually worked. There was a lot to manage this year with injuries, Lard, etc..

There were different things I've questioned about every ISU coach since I've been paying attention (since Johnny). But, when the coach has success, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also, for what it's worth, I live in the Twin Cities and know a coach that's very connected to the BB scene up here - AAU, HS, Timberwolves, etc. He told me a couple years ago that ISU was outbid for Rashad Vaughn. He put the $ at close to $200k. I have no idea if it's true. This is not a close friend, but I can only say that the coach has never told me anything else that is outlandish or that I questioned re: its veracity. It did bother me that ISU would be playing that game - maybe all are; I don't know. Again, take it for what it's worth.

I have heard that very same thing about Vaughn
 

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Then why did he and hoiberg (in my opinion) leak the Hawaii story which hurt Iowa State tremendously?
Just like anyone in the workforce, you don't always see eye-to-eye with decision-makers, the boss or leadership. There is no doubt that some of the choices that were made by the AD were not well received. Doesn't mean that Matt didn't love his time in Ames.
 

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I don't know why this post have five disagrees, as of now. When tweets came out about Abdelmassih joining Hoiberg in Lincoln there were St John's people calling Abdelmassih a rat. And we've had stories on here about how he was kind of dirty while in Ames.
NY's call everyone a rat when they leave their city, no surprise.

Here is the thing with Matt, he struck lightning in a bottle when he was at ISU. He was ahead of the curve from recruiting transfers and now dynamics have changed in college ball. He wasn't able to get the same kind of success going at SJ's and struggled to get the program going in the right direction. He was responsible for the following: Kane, Hogue, White, CA, KL, Babb, Booker, McKay. He was huge for ISU and a lot of people took shots at him for his recruiting style and his success. Dude is very loyal to Fred and vice versa.
 
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