So, after 6 years, why isn't this an effective system? What we seem to have now is more of a sack based spread offense. He has had time to get personnel in place to make it work, but we're continually thin - especially on the line.
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So, after 6 years, why isn't this an effective system? What we seem to have now is more of a sack based spread offense. He has had time to get personnel in place to make it work, but we're continually thin - especially on the line.
That was based on the assumption that the team would physically be present. Not sure how the officials allowed that game to continue when it was obvious to everyone that KU was playing a bunch of ghosts and apparitions dressed in ISU gear.
I like to picture the spread in a tuxedo t shirt. You know, somethin classy but still says, "I'm here to party".
Haha, I quite liked watching that WVU team play. I would love it if we played that style of offense but I don't see Sam or Grant with the tools to play like Pat White. I made the "I" comment based on Sam/Grant's abilities. If Rhoads wants to play that style than his QB recruiting sure is confusing. Lanning?
Whatever system we play I wish we would build an identity as a physical team....I think Coach Mac had that going for awhile at least before the bottom dropped out, but haven't had that since then.
CRP hasn't recruited or developed a Pat White or a Noel Devine, and I'm not sure we are in a great position to do so.
We are a school in an uptempo, finesse league. And we are located farther away from the recruiting hotbeds for those types of players than any other school in the league. To me, the solution is to go against the grain. Road graders for linemen, block first TEs, sets with a fullback lead blocking, and physical tailbacks that would rather run you over than make you miss. Every team in the league is out there building defenses to stop the speedy spread offenses of teams like Baylor or TCU or OSU, which is what you play 8 or 9 times a season in this league. Let's beat them up and run them over while we eat clock and keep their offensive weapons on the sidelines.
In this league and many others in college fball your success goes as far as your QB, unless u have such a great D that carries your team....see Iowa most years. Put Senaca on this team and we prob win 8-9 games.
One thing I've noticed about SR this year is that he's determined to sit in the pocket. It's like last year he would run for his life early(can't blame him) and this year he is getting more time but sits too long. It's a fine line and very hard to do as a QB but our WRs need to break off their route and come back to him more and often.
One thing I've noticed about SR this year is that he's determined to sit in the pocket. It's like last year he would run for his life early(can't blame him) and this year he is getting more time but sits too long. It's a fine line and very hard to do as a QB but our WRs need to break off their route and come back to him more and often.
Speed kills and that is what those Tejas team have. It doesn't matter if you spread them out or try to run over them they will overwhelm you with their speed offensively and defensively. The only way what you are saying will really work is if you are talking about NFL caliber linemen that are going to be able to maintain a block 6-7 yards down field, and can move very quickly laterally to engage stunting defenders and backs who aren't ever going to get caught by backside pursuit along with a balanced passing game that is going to keep them honest.
Iowa State is still going to have to face 6'9" 280 lb. defensive ends who can run a 4.88 40 and box jump 40" while holding 70 lbs. of extra weight. I don't think you are going to run over that.
This is correct. EVERYONE and their dog runs the spread now, everyone knows how to defend it. Back when Pat White was going strong, it was tough to defend because you did not see it all the time. Those WVU teams had speed and were good and they would still be good today but would their #'s look the same since everyone has seen the offense so much and has a better idea how to stop it?
Texas teams will always have the talent edge over us, but if that talent they recruited is built to beat a spread attack we could find a personnel advantage at times by playing non-spread power football. Then we would only need a couple good receivers who can beat you over the top to threaten the defense. Nothing we do right now threatens the defense. Need to build some sort of identity.
This type of thing sounds really good right now because it's different. In your head you're imagining 16-play TD drives where we burn 8 minutes off the clock and limit the other teams possessions (or something along those general lines). But how many times would you trust an ISU offense to bulldoze its way down the field and sustain a long TD drive? And what happens when Baylor or TCU turn right around after that long drive and go 80+ yards in 1:30 to answer? We have to do that whole thing over again.. then when a team is up 14 or more points we have no offense in place to mount any sort of comeback. Fans would be livid watching that.
I personally don't think our offense is that far off right now talent-wise. It is easy to forget how good the offense looked in the first half Saturday. We were on pace for 500 yards of offense at halftime. It's just one thing here and there that seems to make the wheels fall off, whether that's the QB missing an open receiver, or missing blocks, or receivers dropping balls. We just can't seem to put it all together for a full game.
You people do know that the U of Ia would finish in the bottom 3rd of the big 12.............
Speed baby SpeedKills and the southern teams have Speed to Road Kill any team from the north of Mizzou...........
If you guys want to get to 8 wins hire Earle Bruce ..........Earle did it 3 yrs in a row...........
Speed baby SpeedKills and the southern teams have Speed to Road Kill any team from the north of Mizzou...........
If you guys want to get to 8 wins hire Earle Bruce ..........Earle did it 3 yrs in a row...........
And those people will still be wrong, just like they were before the Iowa game.
Same amount as I trust the current offense. Which is not at all. But we're at the point where there's no downside to trying something different so what are you afraid of?
I can confidently say that we will get to 6 wins this year.
We're counting men's basketball too right? If just football I am confident we will get to 6 wins by December....
of 2018.
We're counting men's basketball too right? If just football I am confident we will get to 6 wins by December....
of 2018.
