Friday OT #2 - Mount Trashmore

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Grateful Dead
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Neil Diamond (Amazing songwriter, awful performer)
Nirvana (Some people just know when to die)
 

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Have you ever watched Rick Beato on YT? He's a long time producer and he loves to rail on recent music for the lack of chord changes and overuse of Audiotune. He definitely gives off "get off my lawn" vibes at times, but he's fun to watch occasionally.

I am definitely an old man yelling at the clouds about stuff like this.

There's one and only one Beatles song that uses those chords ("Oh Darling!" off Abbey Road) while approximately half -- and only exaggerating slightly here -- of TaySway songs do.

This article is ten years old, but I enjoy it because it confirms all my priors --

https://newatlas.com/pop-music-trends/23535/

Quantifying the timbre variety in pop music ("Timbre is what makes a particular musical sound different from another, even when they have the same pitch or loudness. It is essentially the difference between different instruments playing the same note at the same loudness. They found that, after peaking in the mid-1960s, timbral variety has continued to narrow.") shows exactly this dynamic at play.

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That is...

The late 1960s and early 1970s were a golden age. It is almost always worth it to dig deeper into the catalog of a well-known act or to explore a new, obscure one from this era.

Downslide into the late 1970s and 1980s. Not that there isn't some great music there, but there just isn't the "deep vinyl" depth worth exploring like there would be with the median record of 1970.

Bit of a recovery into the 1990s -- grunge, Britpop, alternative rock, classic hip hop, etc.

Then things fell off a cliff. I doubt they've improved since 2012.
 

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In the Artificial Sweetener category:

The Carpenters. The Osmonds. Celine Dion when she sings in English.

In the Rock Band category:

Styx, Doobies with Michael McDonald, The Doors (no just no but I did visit Morrison's grave in Paris once, har)

In the Famous-But-Why category:

Weird Al (don't get me wrong, I love parodies, but Weird Al is a skeeze), Salt and Pepa, most of the ones that appear currently on SNL

In the Country Music category:

All of them
 
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I went back and listened to Crash from DMB the other day. I wasn't a fan at the time but after listening to it again, I liked. I also think Bob Seger Night Moves (live) and Live Bullet are both great albums. I also think Darius Rucker has a great voice.

I don't like Bob Dylan.

There everyone hate.
 
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I am definitely an old man yelling at the clouds about stuff like this.

There's one and only one Beatles song that uses those chords ("Oh Darling!" off Abbey Road) while approximately half -- and only exaggerating slightly here -- of TaySway songs do.

This article is ten years old, but I enjoy it because it confirms all my priors --

https://newatlas.com/pop-music-trends/23535/

Quantifying the timbre variety in pop music ("Timbre is what makes a particular musical sound different from another, even when they have the same pitch or loudness. It is essentially the difference between different instruments playing the same note at the same loudness. They found that, after peaking in the mid-1960s, timbral variety has continued to narrow.") shows exactly this dynamic at play.

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That is...

The late 1960s and early 1970s were a golden age. It is almost always worth it to dig deeper into the catalog of a well-known act or to explore a new, obscure one from this era.

Downslide into the late 1970s and 1980s. Not that there isn't some great music there, but there just isn't the "deep vinyl" depth worth exploring like there would be with the median record of 1970.

Bit of a recovery into the 1990s -- grunge, Britpop, alternative rock, classic hip hop, etc.

Then things fell off a cliff. I doubt they've improved since 2012.

Not to mention that I read "Oh Darling!" as something more than a little parodic (it's those back-beat guitar "MROWWS" and the arpeggios in the bridges).

Supposedly the "loudness war" peaked sometime in the early 2010s (right around the time of that article) and has (slowly) been receding, but I don't have any data to back that up, just anecdotal stuff and what my own ears tell me. Mostly because (I think) producers were reaching the limits of what you could do without distorting the sound beyond recognition.

There are, in my opinion, some interesting things happening in odd niches of the musical world, but it definitely pales in comparison to the variety of (and exposure of) the late 60s-early 70s peak. But I also have weird taste, so take that as you will.
 

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It's like you read my mind. My only addition because I have to single them out, is Hootie and The Blowfish. I want to stick my head in a grinder when I hear their music.

I haaaaaaate Hootie. It is total “head in the oven” mode.

Whooo... there are a lot of good bands in that nu metal genre. I can definitely give you limp biscuit.


Other than Rage, I said what I said.
 
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Only 4 bands? I like breaking it down into genres.

Rock: U2, DMB, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty

Metal: GnR, Poison, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi

One hit Wonders/80s slush: Soft Cell, Dexy's Midnight Runners, Men at work, Tears for Fears

Pop Tarts: Madonna, Taylor Swift, Cardi B, Katy Perry

Country: All
 

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most of the ones that appear currently on SNL

I think this is pretty broad strokes…

In the past two years alone, a few amazing acts:

Kendrick Lamar
Steve Lacy
SZA
Megan Thee Stallion
Jack White
Kacey Musgraves
Brandi Carlisle
LCD Soundsystem
Japanese Breakfast
Arcade Fire

There is a pretty deep well of great music there in a variety of genres and experience levels…. For every super poppy act (or maybe two), there is generally a quality one.
 
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