FRED HOIBERG TO OHIO ST?
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How is he disloyal?
Prohm didn't grow up an ISU fan or player, so I guess he's disloyal to wherever his roots are? Get over yourself.
Recruiting is much easier to Ohio state than Iowa state, it's all about relationships with AAU coaches which I'm sure Ohio state has no problems with.
Well, he did effectively quit before leaving. Get over your hard-on for Fred, he's just another hired hand.
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If a company offered you twice as much money and opportunity you wouldn't leave? ********.
I have a hard on for Fred because I'm not butthurt he left?
Get over it. It was 2 years ago. He did great things for ISU and always held himself with class. I'm a Prohm guy now and more importantly, I'm an ISU guy.
Good lord sensitive internet today...
The coach has to have a relationship with the AAU program. Fred would have to do his job at Ohio State. He did it for a few years here, then he decided he was going to cut bait soon enough and could quit doing part of his job. Its to his credit that he was able to be as good as he was when he quit recruiting. I'm sure Prohm wishes that Fred hadn't quit 2 years before he actually left.
Oh crap! Now Prohm to Omaha. Fred to OSU. And Matta to ISU!!!
So why does Ohio State have better relationships with AAU programs than Iowa State? The reason they got rid of Matta was his lack of recruiting. And he'd been there for a decade.
Part of the problem is we haven't been able to keep a freaking coach for more than 5 years for the last 27 years. That's a huge problem and it would be nice if we could manage to hang onto Prohm for longer than Fred, but somehow I bet he will be in a better situation in about 2 years too!
This would leave Ohio State fans disappointed. He turned around our program into a pretty good team, but Ohio State wants more than that. He doesn't emphasize defense enough to build a great team. If he were smart he'd stay in Chicago and head to a smaller school another year. Fred is a nice guy and I like him but I hope he doesn't go because he would crumble under that pressure.
I honestly dont know how well Fred would do in today's recruiting climate. The success he had was largely based on the transfer realm of recruiting, of which he was on the forefront nationally. As CW has mentioned before, now everybody is taking transfers. Its a lot harder to get the star transfers today than it was 5-8 years ago, and we all know Fred is not the biggest fan of transitional recruiting. I hope I am wrong, but I dont know how well he would be recruiting long term if he was to return to the college ranks.
He is still one of the premier in-game coaches in the country, but the recruiting would be tough on him now that transfers are harder to get.
He is still one of the premier in-game coaches in the country, but the recruiting would be tough on him now that transfers are harder to get.
I actually agree with this completely. I'm not butthurt he left. He scammed his way into 5 million a year for 5 years with the Bulls. Who wouldn't do that? Who wouldn't also take a few horrible years at Chicago and parlay(scam) it into even more money possibly with OSU? Everyone would I'm guessing. Why not?
Yes, Fred did do great things here, and Prohm has done just as much already basically though. Fred held himself with class, can't argue with that either. And as you said, and I agree, I'm a Prohm guy now, always an ISU guy, and don't particularly care about Fred anymore.
My only point was that I'm not sure anyone who has done so little has ever parlayed that into being one of the highest paid basketball coaches on the planet? Good for Fred, but geeeez.... he doesn't have much on his resume really for the kind of coin he's bringing down.
