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Bigguns

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Funny, I think the exact opposite. It seems to me like they have done a decent job recruiting, but a horrible job coaching.

We are playing guys that are not ready to compete at this level. I don't think any of these true freshmen would start on most Big XXII teams. LJ is most likely our best freshman and I don't think he would start at corner for Texas, Oklahoma, TT, Okie St, Baylor, Mizzu, Kansas, Nebraska. That leaves K-St, and Colorado and I will let you know in the next couple of wks about them. Curtis Taylor may be the only D-line man that would start for any other school in the Big XXII(he wasn't recruited by Chizek). None of our LB's would even play anywhere else in the Big XXII(Smith is a warrior but to slow). So I think the are coaching their *** off. Give these young players time to develop(Strength and Explosion training). Before I get attacked for my opinions I did not say that the young guys are not Big XXII players, I said they are not guys who would be playing yet in most programs and for that reason it is hard to evaluate a coaches coaching ability.
 

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We are playing guys that are not ready to compete at this level. I don't think any of these true freshmen would start on most Big XXII teams. LJ is most likely our best freshman and I don't think he would start at corner for Texas, Oklahoma, TT, Okie St, Baylor, Mizzu, Kansas, Nebraska. That leaves K-St, and Colorado and I will let you know in the next couple of wks about them. Curtis Taylor may be the only D-line man that would start for any other school in the Big XXII(he wasn't recruited by Chizek). None of our LB's would even play anywhere else in the Big XXII(Smith is a warrior but to slow). So I think the are coaching their *** off. Give these young players time to develop(Strength and Explosion training). Before I get attacked for my opinions I did not say that the young guys are not Big XXII players, I said they are not guys who would be playing yet in most programs and for that reason it is hard to evaluate a coaches coaching ability.

I agree, many of the kids that are playing right now are not ready for the Big 12. The good news is most kids have a pretty good just natural size and strength gain from their freshmen to sophomore years. I know I did. Hopefully that will translate into more wins next season.

However, there is enough talent and maturity on this team to beat UNLV, to not blow a 20 point halftime lead to KU, and to at least be competitive with Baylor, TAMU, and NU. Those things did not happen, and that falls squarely on the coaches.
 
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I feel bad for our safeties. They get blamed for all the deep balls, and for being out of position, and that they aren't sticking to their assignments. In reality, the problem with our defense is 3 fold:

1: no pass rush. The Tampa 2 relies on being able to get to the QB with an outside passrush and to get their quickly. Guys like Dwight Freeney for Indy are exactly what you need for the Tampa 2, and is exactly why Indy's first pick in the 2002 draft was Freeney. We do not have a DE on our team right now that is even remotely capable of this and this is simply a matter of recruiting.

2: Terrible MLB pass coverage. I love Jessie Smith's effort and he is rock solid at stopping the run, but he has TERRIBLE pass coverage and in the Tampa 2 you absolutely, without question, require a MLB capable of reading a play and getting into coverage. This is why I feel bad for our Safeties. They are indeed out of position on many plays, but it's because our MLB is just way, way too slow and out of position to get back to cover the deep middle. His responsibility on a pass play is deep over the middle and I can't remember now how many times he's been about 20 yards to shallow. This forces the Safeties to cheat to the middle but they screwed having to cover both deep middle and the entire sideline. I agree that the safeties look bad, but the problem is with the MLB. If we could get a FAST MLB (possibly moving Raven over next year) that is better than Jessie at reading and reacting then we our safety play will immediately be better.

3: DT must be more athletic. In the Tampa 2, the interior Defensive Lineman are responsible for the run; because the MLB has to drop into coverage, your tackles must be able to consume the middle of the line giving the MLB an easier read on the play, we simply do not have the horses in the middle to be able to pull this off yet.

In total, we simply don't have the personnel on the field to run our defense. It would be surprising to me to see any assistants or Bolt released when they need time to groom players into the system they are running. The same goes for the offense, we are just beginning to put the pieces in place now. The offense is further along than the D right now and it shows with some glimmers of what we might be seeing in a year or two.


First off the safeties appear to be a disaster in any system. JJ Bass might make a better safety.

Second, you have made a strong case that all the defensive players lack.

Third, you make me think that 2012 will be our year.

Fourth, have you ever seen a team give up so many thrid down first downs?

Fifith, where would you reassign Bolt at this point if you moved him? What has been our best defensive game? Iowa?

Sixth, will we ever see a Jason Berryman type again?

Seventh, if you do not have the horses to play Cover Two, why play it? Are we a glutton for our own punishment?
 

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I want to know why a guy goes from clemson/auburn to lowly iowa state? chizik did for a better job opportunity, but i cant see where bolt is any better off for taking the job.

Bolt was let go at UAB by Watson Brown after the 2005 season. As I understand it, he didn't have a job when Chizik hired him as DC.
So, the reason he would come here is to be employed. And, he's now paid very well - close to $300,000.
 

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Bolt was let go at UAB by Watson Brown after the 2005 season. As I understand it, he didn't have a job when Chizik hired him as DC.
So, the reason he would come here is to be employed. And, he's now paid very well - close to $300,000.

We definitely are not getting very good ROI from our coordinators.
 

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Bolt was let go at UAB by Watson Brown after the 2005 season. As I understand it, he didn't have a job when Chizik hired him as DC.
So, the reason he would come here is to be employed. And, he's now paid very well - close to $300,000.

Actually Bolt took time off on his own accord due to health concerns.
 

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Bolt was let go at UAB by Watson Brown after the 2005 season. As I understand it, he didn't have a job when Chizik hired him as DC.
So, the reason he would come here is to be employed. And, he's now paid very well - close to $300,000.


Speaking of Bolt and Gene going at it, I saw quite a bit of Bo Pelini :chatterbox:going at Carl Pelini :confused:Saturday night. Even they appeared not to be in tune. :eek:Bo had a press conference by himself with no players or coaches. :confused:He was totally mortified and upset.:sad: He could not blame the refs for the Blowout City loss.:wideeyed: 35-0 first quarter ices the game. :dull:
 

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Soon to be famous Wayne Bolt quote, "You've got some bad body language man."

Now thats the pot calling the kettle black.
 

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This might be a little too touchy-feely, but Chizik brought these coaches up with him to begin something great. The feel of this whole program is that we've got a lot of improving to do, but that's why we're all here and we're going to do it TOGETHER. I think that's evident by talking to assistants and hearing players talk (disregard PB of course). You don't get the feeling from players or coaches that losing Bates was a blow to the team, rather you get the feeling that if Bates isn't in with us for the long-haul, he doesn't belong here anyway.

The Chiz canning an assistant at this point in the program sends a message (imo) that it's no longer US vs THEM, it's ME vs them.
 

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If we just had safeties that could stick to their assignments we would have a MUCH better defense. It seems like every game you hear the announcers say, "he thought he had safety help" or "he got behind the safety". I think the announcers this week were actually a little schocked at just how bad our safeties were in coverage.

I guess the question is why they aren't in position. 1) Don't know what they're doing because they're, well, not too smart, 2) are just too slow, or 3) the coaches haven't taught them well.

I found it interesting during the game that one of the commentators had talked to Chizik about communicating with the players. Chizik's general thought was that whatever we are doing isn't working, they are not learning at this point and it's on the coaches to try and find a different angle to communicate and get them up to speed. Apparently Gene was a 3rd grade teacher while a high school coach and compared the two to our present situation. Teaching our new players from the ground up and assuming nothing, kinda like you would a 3rd grader or maybe a new high school football player. I think Gene realizes what they are trying to do is failing miserably and something needs to change. I was just trying to get everybody's thoughts, not lobby in any particular direction. Gene's in a very tough situation, that's for sure.

It would be pretty pathetic if Chizik canned one of his assistants 1.5 years into his tenure.

I don't think anybody's considering canning a coach at mid-season. Why even bring this up?
 

MontyBurns

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I don't think anybody's considering canning a coach at mid-season. Why even bring this up?

Somebody is considering it. After all the whole topic is about canning a coach and we're at mid-season. Granted the actual canning won't take place for 3 more weeks, but if it happens, it's pretty pathetic to can a member of a hand-picked staff after two seasons.
 
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If we just had safeties that could stick to their assignments we would have a MUCH better defense. It seems like every game you hear the announcers say, "he thought he had safety help" or "he got behind the safety". I think the announcers this week were actually a little schocked at just how bad our safeties were in coverage.

That doesn't sound like a "horses" issue. More like a coaching issue.
 

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