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Rural

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So HHH has his first Raw match in over three years and ends up staggering around like someone on a MD 20-20 bender?

I just flipped back over for the last couple minutes, did Lesner come out and "concuss" him or what?
 

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So HHH has his first Raw match in over three years and ends up staggering around like someone on a MD 20-20 bender?

I just flipped back over for the last couple minutes, did Lesner come out and "concuss" him or what?

They're playing that he was too badly beaten up by Lesnar the night before, and not medically cleared to wrestle.
It was a pretty sad way to end the show.
 

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The problem with that is that they closed 12 years ago, so all those guys are getting to be old as dirt.

After I posted this did come to my mind. Heyman talked it up as a set your DVR moment and then it was like major let down.
 

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Well in a year we should revisit how Axel is fitting in and if his "persona" is panning out.


WWE for me is background noise until you have those "stop what you're doing to watch" guys like Taker, HHH, Lesnar, CM Punk, sometimes Cena, ect) Also, most of the time, the Shield keeps my attention. These guys have become huge in less than a year's time. Good for them.


The WWE needs some new blood with Punk on vaca, Cena "hurt", Lesnar gone ect. I would love to see the Miz and Randy Orton get big again.

Anyone know why Alex Riley has been reduced to nothing? Maybe he was only relevant as the gimmick as the assistant to the Miz.
 

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The thing is do wwe think fans are stupid. They can change names but we know tensai was Albert, and that Axel was magillicuty. Steph and HHH are destroying wwe. To quote Y2J, the wrestling we all grew up on is NEVER, EVER going to be the same again.
 

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Even when Tensai was Lord Tensai and had a mysterious appeal to him, I could stomach that. Now he's just fluff to fill 3 hours.

They also could have done more with Brodus Clay. The guy is huge. Has he ever been part of any plot?


Let's not forget Johnny Curtis as Fandango.
 

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We all know it but it's the truth, WWE went downhill when Vince bought WCW and closed it up. There is no competition (TNA has just a fraction of the pull WCW did) and no reason to push the limits. Storylines are just rehashed over and over again and a lot of times the same competitors are the ones continually holding the main belts. Add to that the fact that Vince and Co tamed down everything after they finally bent over to the demands of the Parents TV Council and his wife's political campaigns and the product is sub-par at best. Sure, they've had some decent stories pop up every now and then, but comparative to the "Attitude Era" they aren't even close anymore.
 

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They've become trapped in the "sports entertainment" fog that all the old-timers tried to warn them about.
 

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We all know it but it's the truth, WWE went downhill when Vince bought WCW and closed it up. There is no competition (TNA has just a fraction of the pull WCW did) and no reason to push the limits. Storylines are just rehashed over and over again and a lot of times the same competitors are the ones continually holding the main belts. Add to that the fact that Vince and Co tamed down everything after they finally bent over to the demands of the Parents TV Council and his wife's political campaigns and the product is sub-par at best. Sure, they've had some decent stories pop up every now and then, but comparative to the "Attitude Era" they aren't even close anymore.


Agreed. Sadly, we don't get very many must see moments....but when we do, still worth keeping up/watching.

To me, from now til Summerslam is the dullest time of the year. Lots of big names take breaks....we're stuck with fluff storylines. I hope we get some surprises.
 

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I think what really killed them was the PTC campaign against them in the early 2000's. I remember watching RAW on USA/Spike and after the PTC had gotten most all of their sponsors to pull every commercial break was the same two commercials over and over. There was a time when cussing on the show wasn't just acceptable, it was encouraged. Back when they had a "hardcore" division and constantly held gimmick type matches. Then everything changed. They went soft, cleaned up the language, violence, and boobies, then things got boring. RAW used to be a big deal. It was pulling NFL type ratings for a while.
 

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I think what really killed them was the PTC campaign against them in the early 2000's. I remember watching RAW on USA/Spike and after the PTC had gotten most all of their sponsors to pull every commercial break was the same two commercials over and over. There was a time when cussing on the show wasn't just acceptable, it was encouraged. Back when they had a "hardcore" division and constantly held gimmick type matches. Then everything changed. They went soft, cleaned up the language, violence, and boobies, then things got boring. RAW used to be a big deal. It was pulling NFL type ratings for a while.


Both shows had times where they smashed everything in their path ratings-wise (including the NFL).

We just have to face the fact that what most of us really enjoyed is gone, probably for good.
 
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