Does Hawkins getting fired hurt or help ISU?

[CyCloned]

It doesn't appear this is going to be a win one for the Gipper game, since a lot of the CU players were not happy with Hawkins, but you might get a spirited effort from guys that think that Hawkins was holding the team back. You might also get a team that comes out angry and has several personal fouls and plays unfocused.

The other thing I think about is what do you do as an Asst. Coach? Are you working really hard to prove that you are not the reason the Buffs stink or are you busy cleaning up your resume and getting your name out there?

 

[ISUFan22]

We should win and do so convincingly - no excuses.

Our motivation should be higher than theirs, as a win puts us into a bowl. They have to win three straight conference games to do so - and they currently have won zero.

A loss is inexcusable and should reflect poorly on the staff regarding getting players prepared for a game. I have not seen this as an issue so I have no doubt our guys will be ready and we win the game.

If the ISU football program wants to become one and take the next step - this is a game they simply do not lose. Programs on the rise win this game in a business-as-usual mantra and move on - period.

 

[weR138]

It doesn't appear this is going to be a win one for the Kipper game, since a lot of the CU players were not happy with Hawkins, but you might get a spirited effort from guys that think that Hawkins was holding the team back. You might also get a team that comes out angry and has several personal fouls and plays unfocused.

The other thing I think about is what do you do as an Asst. Coach? Are you working really hard to prove that you are not the reason the Buffs stink or are you busy cleaning up your resume and getting your name out there?

Who?

 

[ISUclones33]

Id be more worried about a still prevalent NU loss hangover, and the release of COD Black Ops. This is a trap game.

 

[Wesley]

We better play better than the utah game or else.

 

[RayShimley]

This just really goes to show the mentality of our fanbase. We have been kicked in the nuts so many times we look for every possible way something could possibly screw us over.

 

[Clones33]

We should win and do so convincingly - no excuses.

Our motivation should be higher than theirs, as a win puts us into a bowl. They have to win three straight conference games to do so - and they currently have won zero.

A loss is inexcusable and should reflect poorly on the staff regarding getting players prepared for a game. I have not seen this as an issue so I have no doubt our guys will be ready and we win the game.

If the ISU football program wants to become one and take the next step - this is a game they simply do not lose. Programs on the rise win this game in a business-as-usual mantra and move on - period.

When did we become Iowa fans? This is a football game between two BigXII teams and it is at their place. In no way is a loss "inexcusable". Colorado has won 6 out of the last 7 times we have played them in Boulder and 11 out of the last 15 overall. Also, ISU is 4-21 in our last 25 road games.

Yes CU fired its lame duck awful football coach. Not sure if this is a + or - for them to be honest. Also, we are coming off an emotional loss. There are a ton of warning signs here - yet I read people all over this board caulking this up as a win.

I'll be rooting hard for ISU, my family lives in CO and my little brother is a student at CU. I just think it is pre-mature to start saying things like a loss at CU is "inexcusable".

 

[jburke]

I agree this is a trap game of sorts, but we are sitting at 5-5, we have not achieved bowl eligiblity yet there is no reason we don't get up for this one from start to finish.....

 

[VTXCyRyD]

I think we've turned the corner. Starting with the Texas game, the beating KU, then the 2 point conversion. Our guys will win this. Our coaches will win this.

Nebraska's turning point under Osborne a failed 2 point conversion. Lets put a stake in the ground and win out this season and bowl game, then win out next year!

 

[ISUFan22]

When did we become Iowa fans?

To hell with that crap. This has nothing about being an Iowa fan or being any type of fan other than one that expects us to go into a stadium that will be very empty and defeat a team that has just 3 total wins on the season, none of them coming in conference play. A team that could not even defeat KU, even with a gigantic lead.

No, losing this game would be huge egg on the face of what this team has accomplished in 1.75 seasons of football. You don't beat Texas on the road, Tech at home and take Nebraska to the wire (plus having a win @ Nebraska the year before) and then lose to a lowly team like CU.

No, absolutely not.

We decided Monday to make the trip to Boulder, had no plans of doing such until then. I believe in this group that much that I think this is a game that we should and will win. And should we lose, I would have my doubts about our direction...making other wins (and good performances) recently look a bit more fluky rather than good, consistent efforts.

 

[CYVADER]

Colorado has won 6 out of the last 7 times we have played them in Boulder and 11 out of the last 15 overall. Also, ISU is 4-21 in our last 25 road games.

We are actually 4-5 in our last 9 TRUE road games since CPR took over-not counting the 2 at arrowhead or the bowl game. so we had lost 16 in a row-all with 2 other coaching staffs that are no longer here.

 

[CyCloned]

Who?

Spell check changed that one, I know it is the Gipper.:v_SPIN:

 

[ISUFan22]

Amazingly enough, this team should be 7-3 currently, with a chance to go 8-3 this weekend, potentially finish 9-3 and play for a Big 12 title. Not a single rational person outside Ames, IA would have thought that was even possible - but it ended up being very possible.

When you are that close to such an accomplishment, you don't lose to a pathetic Colorado program. Not unless we're back in '04 and '05. Not unless you are sulking because of what could have been rather than looking forward to what could still be.

That coach is gone and the new one plays to win.

 

[cyhiphopp]

It doesn't appear this is going to be a win one for the Kipper game, since a lot of the CU players were not happy with Hawkins, but you might get a spirited effort from guys that think that Hawkins was holding the team back. You might also get a team that comes out angry and has several personal fouls and plays unfocused.

The other thing I think about is what do you do as an Asst. Coach? Are you working really hard to prove that you are not the reason the Buffs stink or are you busy cleaning up your resume and getting your name out there?

Who?

I'm sure you were just mocking his obvious spelling error, but for those who really don't know who "the Gipper" is:

George Gipp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jburke]

Amazingly enough, this team should be 7-3 currently, with a chance to go 8-3 this weekend, potentially finish 9-3 and play for a Big 12 title. Not a single rational person outside Ames, IA would have thought that was even possible - but it ended up being very possible.

When you are that close to such an accomplishment, you don't lose to a pathetic Colorado program. Not unless we're back in '04 and '05. Not unless you are sulking because of what could have been rather than looking forward to what could still be.

That coach is gone and the new one plays to win.

Well said.....

 

[RayShimley]

When did we become Iowa fans? This is a football game between two BigXII teams and it is at their place. In no way is a loss "inexcusable". Colorado has won 6 out of the last 7 times we have played them in Boulder and 11 out of the last 15 overall. Also, ISU is 4-21 in our last 25 road games.

What does our record over the last 15 years have anything to do with this team or coaching staff? If CPR is the answer we all think he is then he needs to win these games, no excuses. We will never be competitive in the B12 until we start winning these games. McCarney couldn't do it consistently and Chiz couldn't do it at all.

 

[tazclone]

It doesn't appear this is going to be a win one for the Gipper game, since a lot of the CU players were not happy with Hawkins, but you might get a spirited effort from guys that think that Hawkins was holding the team back. You might also get a team that comes out angry and has several personal fouls and plays unfocused.

The other thing I think about is what do you do as an Asst. Coach? Are you working really hard to prove that you are not the reason the Buffs stink or are you busy cleaning up your resume and getting your name out there?

I think the coaching change helps us. It will be a very chaotic week this week. It wasn't official until today that he was fired so Cabral will have exactly 3-4 days to get the kids on the same page and the locker room has to have some division. There really isn't enough time to change any gameplans or add new wrinkles. Their starting QB is hurt and little hawk is all they have if they want to keep the redshirt on Hirshmann. Little hawk has to be a little flustered that his dad just got canned. They still have the same coordinators so you will probably see the same crapola they have always run. Their defense will be the same and will be tough but their offense will continue to suck.
The KSU and nebbie games are the games where they are much more focused and could have new twists. The chaos will be settled down and Cabral will have his arms around the team.
With that said, we always play like crap in Boulder and we need to come out firing and pound them in the first half. don't let them get any momentum and have them sit in the locker room athalf thinking maybe it wasn't the coach but it was them.

 

[Clones33]

Amazingly enough, this team should be 7-3 currently, with a chance to go 8-3 this weekend, potentially finish 9-3 and play for a Big 12 title. Not a single rational person outside Ames, IA would have thought that was even possible - but it ended up being very possible.

When you are that close to such an accomplishment, you don't lose to a pathetic Colorado program. Not unless we're back in '04 and '05. Not unless you are sulking because of what could have been rather than looking forward to what could still be.

That coach is gone and the new one plays to win.

"You are what your record says you are" - Bill Parcells

I think it is absolutely crazy to question the direction of a program based on one game. You are right that the old coach is gone and the new one plays to win, but that doesn't guarantee a victory in this game and I don't think it would tarnish what CPR has done building this program over the last two years.

Colorado has played well this season, especially at home. They beat a solid Georgia team and they have a couple of those "we should have won" type games as well. If you are ready to fire Rhoads and get off the bandwagon due to a loss this weekend, then more power to you. I am just trying to point out that this game is not a gimmie by any means. At least not to me.

 

[pyrocyz]

This game has scared me ever since the final play of the Nebraska game. I hope I am wrong but I think that we will come out flat.

 

[ISUFan22]

If you are ready to fire Rhoads and get off the bandwagon due to a loss this weekend, then more power to you. I am just trying to point out that this game is not a gimmie by any means. At least not to me.

Did I say that? Nope. But it would be a huge step backwards for this program to lose this game. Huge.

And what I am saying is if this program is moving forward as much as the coach wants us to believe (and I do believe) the game is a W and we're moving onto Mizzu.

There is no rational excuse to lose to CU, regardless of their motivation factor. If they end up having more motivation than we do, our coach did not do a good enough job getting the team prepared to take the field.