Daylight savings is a lazy solution to a lazy problem. Time zones are a lazy solution to a non-problem. I've had to fix 3 time zone issues in my 7 years in the real world, I would have lost it if I was in the software world during Y2K.
**** daylight savings
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Or your latitude in said time zone. I sure am not thrilled about the prospect of sunrise not being until 9 AM in the dead of winter.
How likely is that bill to get through the house? And Joe?
Please make it so
Please make it so
Could be a lot of reasons i don’t remember but apparently permanent DST was tried in 1970 and was quickly gone away from.
Lots of kids getting on the school bus in the dark compliants.
We can get by that this time what with the transition away from school.
Lots of kids getting on the school bus in the dark compliants.
We can get by that this time what with the transition away from school.
Ouch. There are some funky sunrise/sunset times for sure. I visited Acadia in Maine last spring and it was shocking to be woken up by the sunrise, then looking at the clock that said 4:45am. It wasn't even summer yet. Their sunset in the middle of winter is about 4:00pm. Brutal.
So I live in Chicago, 8:18 sunrise in late December and early January will be fun, but those 8:41 sunrises in Des Moines will be absolutely brutal.
So schools will move their opening times to an hour later in the winter and all this, but the kids can play after school **** will go right out the window. Every try waking a kid up with out sun? It really isn't fun, they don't function without it. At least mine down. Maybe we are the exception.
Our middle school starts at 7:30 am, that is fun that the kids that ride the bus, and wait out side the school to be let in will get to do it in total darkness.
I get we should remove the changing of time, but lets use standard time, it is actually the standard.
So schools will move their opening times to an hour later in the winter and all this, but the kids can play after school **** will go right out the window. Every try waking a kid up with out sun? It really isn't fun, they don't function without it. At least mine down. Maybe we are the exception.
Our middle school starts at 7:30 am, that is fun that the kids that ride the bus, and wait out side the school to be let in will get to do it in total darkness.
I get we should remove the changing of time, but lets use standard time, it is actually the standard.
Good, common sense action coming out of Congress? I'm not sure how to handle this. I like it. End the time changes. And DST would be my preference.
The sun rises after 7:30 all of January in Des Moines. So kids already wake up without the sun. This doesn't change anything.
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But there's a significant difference in the level of darkness between 7:29 AM and 6:29 AM.
I'm in favor of eliminating daylight saving time, but it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't change anything.
I have 3 school age kids, pass this ASAP, mornings suck period.
Sounds like a parenting problem and not a “kid” problem. Kids aren’t born thinking they should wake when the sun comes up…
It’s been a while, but when I took Psyc, one of the things I remember was that natural sunlight helps humans naturally wake up.
The key word here is “naturally”… But in this case and most - humans don’t have the luxury of waking up “naturally “.
Thanks for the parenting advice. My kids get up before the sun thank you very much, but they don't have the same pep as when they wake up when the sun is up. That is a natural body instinct that probably dates back millennia when we didn't have electricity! No different than kids are always sleepy and cuddly when it is raining and dark outside.
Have kids stand on the side of the road in the pitch black seems like a great idea of rural America, I know this probably happens in some places now, but it will happen in a lot more if schools don't move start times. Which I think will happen. Which will then force businesses to open later, which will then just just mean we are back on standard time. So why not just use the already standardized time? Why is that so hard.
Daylight Saving is a made up thing that no longer is needed. Lets do away with it.
I hope ISU sociology department gets the data on how much more or less 8AM classes are attended if this happens. I can't imagine I would be real good at dragging myself to 8AM classes in the pitch black of the morning. But again, I am sure that is bad parenting. Damnit mom and dad.
If this passes, schools will eventually move to later start times and it won't have made any real difference for kids. I'm kind of conflicted - I think the current model is actually the best solution with giving us our later sun in the warm times but the sun coming up at a reasonable time in the winter. But, I also hate changing the clock. Standard time all year would be better for more people IMO, and part of the legislation allows for states to pick this as an option. You may see a few making this choice and separating from their current time zone.
