**** daylight savings

Iastfan112

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You've got it backwards. Keep it the way it is year round. Nothing worse than getting dark at 430 or the sun coming up before 5 in the summer.

Regardless it needs to go away. Nothing is saved; it's just a major pain in the ass.

Actually, you've actually got it backwards. DST is what we do during the summer, winter is standard time. If you like later sunsets you prefer DST, if you like earlier sunrises you prefer standard.

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Daylight saving time 2021 in Iowa began at 2:00 AM on
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March 14
and ends at 2:00 AM on
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November 7
All times are in Central Time.
 
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You've got it backwards. Keep it the way it is year round. Nothing worse than getting dark at 430 or the sun coming up before 5 in the summer.

Regardless it needs to go away. Nothing is saved; it's just a major pain in the ass.

Disagree. I'd much rather have that hour of sun in the evening when it's actually useful. The few months of the year that the sun is down earlier ******* blow.
 

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I love the change to make the best use of actual daylight. You people that dont understand it are annoying, and complain when your body adjusts in a few days.

Get over it. Instead You have daylight at like 4 am in the summer and dark at 7pm, or dark until 9 am in the winter. Get over it. It has a point.

States that are closer to the equator don't have the same effect and the further you are from the equator the more it becomes an issue.

There have been some northern states to change it only to go back realizing kids are going and coming from the bus in the dark without, or how much wasted daylight in the summer their is when people are still sleeping in the morning.

You will adjust, just like you always do, and then you will complain again for a week in 6 months because thats what you do. It is not that big of deal, enjoy the extra bar time once a year and drink yourself stupid.
 

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Actually, you've actually got it backwards. DST is what we do during the summer, winter is standard time. If you like later sunsets you prefer DST, if you like earlier sunrises you prefer standard.

From Google:

Daylight saving time 2021 in Iowa began at 2:00 AM on
Sunday
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March 14
and ends at 2:00 AM on
Sunday
,
November 7
All times are in Central Time.
Right.

I'de vote for full time DST and want AZ to do it. Its already been dark too early here and during the summer everyone wants to start work in the dark anyway so this would help!
 

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LMFAO kids adjust quicker than anyone! Maybe a day or 2, might be a 3 or 4 for the normal adult. So horrible.

I find that kids enjoy having an extra hour all summer to play much better. Rather than being daylight before they wake up. And them going to school in the daylight all winter. But you know thats just too much common sense for some people.
 

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I'm up at 4:30-5am every day as well so except for maybe a month in summer it's pitch black when I wake up anyway. When they change up here next week sunrise will be around 6:45. Not sure who that helps.
Its a more about in December when that sunrise is like 730. they split the difference to make it better for longer. We arent at the shortest days yet, but by late December those sunrises would be pushing 9am without Standard time.

Edit: In North Iowa, the sunrise would be 8:45am, without standard time. at the end of December. Not good.

And in the summer sunrise would be about 4:30am with not a single day of sunsets after 8pm. Most by 7:30pm without Daylight savings time.

Does it make sense now?!
 
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Disagree. I'd much rather have that hour of sun in the evening when it's actually useful. The few months of the year that the sun is down earlier ******* blow.

To do what? It's winter. I'd bet 98% of that extra "daylight" people are inside anyways. Maybe 99%.

Maybe in the south its more of a valid issue but even then, it's not huge. I'm in SoCal and it's dark outside by 6:30 right now. Getting dark at 5:30 isn't a big deal.

The change is big thing for the PNW from what I can tell. Without the fall back the sun wouldn't be up until nearly 9 AM in December and January.
 

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Its a more about in December when that sunrise is like 730. they split the difference to make it better for longer. We arent at the shortest days yet, but by late December those sunrises would be pushing 9am without Standard time.

Edit: In North Iowa, the sunrise would be 8:45am, without standard time. at the end of December. Not good.

And in the summer sunrise would be about 4:30am with not a single day of sunsets after 8pm. Most by 7:30pm without Daylight savings time.

Does it make sense now?!

Going to work or school in the dark never bothered me. As a kid getting done with school and sports practice and it already being dark was soul crushing though. Afternoon and Evening daylight is just so much more useful than morning daylight.
 

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Going to work or school in the dark never bothered me. As a kid getting done with school and sports practice and it already being dark was soul crushing though. Afternoon and Evening daylight is just so much more useful than morning daylight.
You have to realize in December the days are just that much shorter. And it might not bother you but it bothers people that have kids walking to and from school or to the bus in the dark. It is about safety. Most kids are home from school by 4pm. Long before it gets dark with standard time in the winter.

By the time you get to high school and activities it doesnt matter if you change time or not it is still going to be dark by the time you get out. Days are just that short. But it makes use of the most of the daylight by changing it.

It also is to make the light coincide with the working day and school day as much as possible. Not many people understand it wont get light until 9 am half the winter if they dont switch or that it would be dark all summer by 8pm, and they would have daylight at 4:30am.

No switch does not work in a place like Iowa. For a number of reasons, including the distance we are from the equator, our agricultural industry, our kids, and many others.

Because the time switch is inconvenient for a few days does not make it a good Idea to make it inconvenient and unsafe for months.
 
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I have three different watches I rotate through that all have to be changed manually. I won’t do it until it bites me in the ass the first time.

People still wear watches? You must be a boomer. I learned something new today.

LOL
 

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Its a more about in December when that sunrise is like 730. they split the difference to make it better for longer. We arent at the shortest days yet, but by late December those sunrises would be pushing 9am without Standard time.

Edit: In North Iowa, the sunrise would be 8:45am, without standard time. at the end of December. Not good.

And in the summer sunrise would be about 4:30am with not a single day of sunsets after 8pm. Most by 7:30pm without Daylight savings time.

Does it make sense now?!
I will say I do like the earlier sunset in the summer too. I'm a night owl naturally and really love lights at night (amusement parks) or in cities so I'd love to see the before 8 sunset in the summer.
 
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You have to realize in December the days are just that much shorter. And it might not bother you but it bothers people that have kids walking to and from school or to the bus in the dark. It is about safety. Most kids are home from school by 4pm. Long before it gets dark with standard time in the winter.

By the time you get to high school and activities it doesnt matter if you change time or not it is still going to be dark by the time you get out. Days are just that short. But it makes use of the most of the daylight by changing it.

It also is to make the light coincide with the working day and school day as much as possible. Not many people understand it wont get light until 9 am half the winter if they dont switch or that it would be dark all summer by 8pm, and they would have daylight at 4:30am.

No switch does not work in a place like Iowa. For a number of reasons, including the distance we are from the equator, our agricultural industry, our kids, and many others.

Because the time switch is inconvenient for a few days does not make it a good Idea to make it inconvenient and unsafe for months.

I'm going to disagree a little with this being necessary for the ag industry. Farmers and others who work outdoors are going to work when the daylight and weather allows regardless of what the clock says.
 
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I'm going to disagree a little with this being necessary for the ag industry. Farmers and others who work outdoors are going to work when the daylight and weather allows regardless of what the clock says.

That's true, but it's a lot nice being able to work outside in "normal" hours with daylight. I'd much rather have my work their normal shifts in daylight than in the dark. The thought of having my day shift crews start the day with 2 straight hours of essentially night work in the winter isn't real pretty.
 

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You have to realize in December the days are just that much shorter. And it might not bother you but it bothers people that have kids walking to and from school or to the bus in the dark. It is about safety. Most kids are home from school by 4pm. Long before it gets dark with standard time in the winter.

By the time you get to high school and activities it doesnt matter if you change time or not it is still going to be dark by the time you get out. Days are just that short. But it makes use of the most of the daylight by changing it.

It also is to make the light coincide with the working day and school day as much as possible. Not many people understand it wont get light until 9 am half the winter if they dont switch or that it would be dark all summer by 8pm, and they would have daylight at 4:30am.

No switch does not work in a place like Iowa. For a number of reasons, including the distance we are from the equator, our agricultural industry, our kids, and many others.

Because the time switch is inconvenient for a few days does not make it a good Idea to make it inconvenient and unsafe for months.

That's not exactly true, unless you flipped both time blocks from DST from what it is today. By removing DST you are only moving one sunrise/set block, not both.

Without an adjustment, you'd have winter sunrise at 8:40am and sunset at 5:55pm and summer at 5:40am and 8:50 pm.

Or you could choose the other time block then you'd have winter sunrise at 7:40 am sunset at 4:55 with summer being 4:40am and 7:50pm.

Personally, I like option 1. I can understand the need for kids safety. It's just exhibit 2,493 that kids ruin everything lol.