**** daylight savings

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Permanent DST was implemented in 1974. It was supposed to be a two-year test. People hated it so much the government canceled the test after only a few months.

I was there. It was pretty depressing, going to school in pitch darkness, with that darkness outside the school windows lasting until after 8:30.

I would love more personal experiences to be shared about this time.. My parents were in middle school, so they don't really remember it much
 

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Permanent DST was implemented in 1974. It was supposed to be a two-year test. People hated it so much the government canceled the test after only a few months.

I was there. It was pretty depressing, going to school in pitch darkness, with that darkness outside the school windows lasting until after 8:30.
but why would i need the sun to rise at 4:30 am on standard time?
 

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have you checked all of Mother Jone's or Salon's archives?

Feel like they would write a compelling piece about traveling through fly-over country being bad for your health.
Isn't there a thing about eastern sports teams generally performing worse when they have to travel west? We may be able to put something together on this.
 

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Honestly this is wild to me because I get to work in darkness every single day all winter. Usually I can leave by 4 and briefly see the sun, but if I work a bit late it's dark both directions.

I would far prefer having sunset in the winter be 5-5:30 to give yourself another hour of sunlight to "get stuff done" or anything outside compared to the current Standard Time situation.

But it's not exactly a hill I would die on.

The one person I've interacted with who strongly prefers standard time in the winter raised cattle and dreaded doing morning chores in pitch black darkness all winter, which I can understand.
Putting kids on the bus about 90 minutes before sunrise when conditions aren't the best in the winter isn't exactly a great option either.

The current adopted time system is one that tries to balance the needs of a variety of constituencies in a variety of locations in a large country with four time zones and more than 25 degrees of latitude, and that's okay because that's what the government is supposed to do.

But every 50 years or so we lose the institutional memory of why things are the way they are, so we'll probably change it just to go back to the current system after two or three years, having learned nothing.
 
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Putting kids on the bus about 90 minutes before sunrise when conditions aren't the best in the winter isn't exactly a great option either.

The current adopted time system is one that tries to balance the needs of a variety of constituencies in a variety of locations in a large country with four time zones and more than 25 degrees of latitude, and that's okay because that's what the government is supposed to do.

But every 50 years or so we lose the institutional memory of why things are the way they are, so we'll probably change it just to go back to the current system after two or three years, having learned nothing.
Not an issue now, they all have their noses pinned to those little light emitting devices known as cell phones. ;)
 

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I would love more personal experiences to be shared about this time.. My parents were in middle school, so they don't really remember it much

This is a great point, just for fun I am going to ask my parents & family about it at the family gatherings.
 

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Putting kids on the bus about 90 minutes before sunrise when conditions aren't the best in the winter isn't exactly a great option either.

The current adopted time system is one that tries to balance the needs of a variety of constituencies in a variety of locations in a large country with four time zones and more than 25 degrees of latitude, and that's okay because that's what the government is supposed to do.

But every 50 years or so we lose the institutional memory of why things are the way they are, so we'll probably change it just to go back to the current system after two or three years, having learned nothing.

This is a persuasive argument. I absolutely don't buy "dark out the windows at school" angle, but having more daylight for early morning school commuting would certainly carry a lot of weight.
 

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My mom talks about the cancelled DST in the 70's and how terrible it was.

I personally prefer the Daylight time vs Standard time, but I'm not that troubled by changing it every 6 months.
 
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Clock going ahead a hour tonight. Bit of a rough wake-up the next couple of days until the body adjusts.
 
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If you have kids it literally does not do a damn thing other than cause for cranky kids.
I would think a lot of kids would prefer to have the extra hours of daylight in the early evening. Be outside playing, swimming, whatever...as opposed to being inside because it gets dark at 6-7 o'clock.
 
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Permanent DST was implemented in 1974. It was supposed to be a two-year test. People hated it so much the government canceled the test after only a few months.

I was there. It was pretty depressing, going to school in pitch darkness, with that darkness outside the school windows lasting until after 8:30.
I was in 8th grade, dont recall a thing about daylight savings, except feeding earlage by hand in a trash can to 50 head fat cattle after football, wrestling, track practice. Dad took care of the hogs. Does anyone refer to them as fat cattle anymore? I'm a city boy now.
 

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Or go to bed and hour earlier and not "lose" any sleep.

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