Cyclones are 10 point favorites over Baylor

[twojman]

Thinking for the future of ISU in this conference, the more Baylor gets a beat down, the better. When Baylor starts taking recruits like they were, ISU suffered. (bad coaching in Ames didn't help either!) With Campbell we are obviously expanding the recruiting area but if we are going to try and get some Texas kids, you don't want castoffs that only UTSA and SMU are going after. There is a tier of kid (that's not going to A&M or Texas) that can be a winning type player and I see ISU fighting Baylor for those types of kids if Baylor can recover after this season.

So, beat down Baylor if possible, make current recruits have some second thoughts. A slow start for Baylor next season may scare off some recruits...ends up being a good cycle for ISU, even if we only end up fighting them for a 1-2 recruits/year. Over a 4 year period that is up to 8 guys and if you have 4-5 of them end up on your 2 deep, that is a huge difference IMO.

 

[cyclones500]

Bigger spread than I expected, thought it might be something like 6.5. On paper, should be 17-point win.

Isn't ISU doing really well ATS this season? Seems like last time we didn't cover was maybe vs. UT?

 

[NorthCyd]

Bigger spread than I expected, thought it might be something like 6.5. On paper, should be 17-point win.

Isn't ISU doing really well ATS this season? Seems like last time we didn't cover was maybe vs. UT?

We didn't cover against OSU. Don't think we covered WVU either.

 

[jkclone]

We didn't cover against OSU. Don't think we covered WVU either.

We had the OSU game as 7 points. I don’t know what the game time spread was but we tied ours.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I think our defense is built for this. Oklahoma State exposed the defense just a bit on Saturday, but that was due to pure talent, with a quarterback who could place a ball perfectly, really, really good receivers, and a running back that was quick, powerful and fast.

I think we hold them well under 30 and we score over.

 

[isufbcurt]

I think our defense is built for this. Oklahoma State exposed the defense just a bit on Saturday, but that was due to pure talent, with a quarterback who could place a ball perfectly, really, really good receivers, and a running back that was quick, powerful and fast.

I think we hold them well under 30 and we score over.

I agree.

I told my wife Saturday the superior athletes won. That's not a knock on our guys but you could tell just by looking at OSU's guys.

 

[cyclones500]

We didn't cover against OSU. Don't think we covered WVU either.

Right I think OSU was a push. I thought WVU was 4.5, but maybe it had dropped by game time.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Baylor has basically crumpled in the face of the good defenses they have played. I see nothing changing. Clones put this away in the 3rd or early 4th.

After Saturday can we say we have a good defense still?

 

[cyclones500]

Massey has it ISU, 35-14. I expect a narrower margin, although I wouldn't mind seeing something like that.

 

[cygrads]

I agree.

I told my wife Saturday the superior athletes won. That's not a knock on our guys but you could tell just by looking at OSU's guys.

Agree, OSU has way better talent (we are closing the gap) but they should be concerned because this coaching staff out coached Gundy with less AD budget as well. Almost forgot ISU went toe to toe with OSU with a third string QB - would OSU had beaten ISU with their third string QB?

 

[Omaha Cy]

After Saturday can we say we have a good defense still?

Eventually in the Big 12, your defense catches an ass kicking. It's gonna happen.

 

[jsb]

After Saturday can we say we have a good defense still?

Yes, because one somewhat bad outing defines a season. Good ******* grief.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

After Saturday can we say we have a good defense still?

Using the OSU game as your sample size seems pretty silly. The Pokes did what they've done all year on offense, which is utilize their speed they have across the board. The list of teams capable of slowing them down is pretty dang short.

 

[Cyclonepride]

If we attack this game like we have against ranked teams then yes. If we treat Baylor like they are a 1 win team we could get in trouble.

I think that the latter would have been much more likely if:

A. We hadn't lost the last two games.
B. Hadn't been beaten repeatedly by Baylor in recent years.

Also, as has been said, we took care of business with our "easier" games so far.

 

[madguy30]

Pretty scary game imo.

ISU's run in October was really due to the base defense not letting much happen and coming through late, and the last two weeks they've gone leaky in crucial situations, and last weekend just plain gave up too many yards/points in general.

If it's close in the 4th I don't like ISU's chances.

 

[FinalFourCy]

After Saturday can we say we have a good defense still?

Yes. Not a great one, but no one ever said that.

Ok St put 500 yards and scored 31 on TCU’s great defense, the difference being Ok St turned it over 4 times in that game rather than zero against ISU

 

[Dryburn]

I think this could be a tough game. Yes, Baylor has only beaten Kansas. but they switched to Brewer as the starting qb in that game and every game since. With that switch, their offense looks a little more like the Baylor offenses of old. Not the same team they were at the start of the year. I could see this being a similar game for ISU as the Iowa and Okie State games were. Defense will have to step up.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Another key this week (just like the past few) is not giving up the big play (Baylor has a WR already over 1,000 yards).

A huge advantage that ISU has this week, is that Baylor has been playing a true freshman at QB (though he has been pretty good). ISU should be able to frustrate him with the 3 man front and dropping 8 into coverage with the occasional blitz coming from different directions (so long as they stop the run).

It's crazy the QB's ISU has had to play in 5 of the past 6 games.
-Baker Mayfield (likely heisman winner and #1 in CFB in pass efficiency).
-Nic Shimonek (#10 in CFB in pass efficiency).
-Kenny Hill (#26 in CFB in pass efficiency).
-Will Grier (#7 in CFB in pass efficiency).
-Mason Rudolph (#3 in CFB in pass efficiency).

Charlie Brewer might be a nice football player with a bright future, but he's a drop off from that list.

 

[jbindm]

This game scares me a little. Baylor may be 1-9, but they have a lot more talent than a 1 win team. They would steamroll those patsies that beat them early if they played them right now.

Both of these last two regular season games have me a little nervous. Baylor's better than their record suggests, and they haven't quit on their coach. The Cyclones will get their best shot.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Baylor covers.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I'd take ISU. Which means it's probably good I can't* bet on ISU this weekend