Facts. I’ve been told the same thing
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Facts. I’ve been told the same thing
If only there was public record of a sexual assault for one of them. Sexual criminals typically aren’t good people.
So what do you know about the brands?
what was your opinion of their behavior last night?
why would you take all that time to register to defend them because they’re terrible people?
The scary part is, once the wrestling season is over you think Iowa wants anything to do with him?
I was too young but don't recall anything like this regarding Harold Nichols or his assistants at a meet. And although Gable carried on, I don't recall it ever to such an extreme.
At a meet, though, what people apparently saw yesterday is just a slightly more extreme version of what has been going on for a long time. Again, Gable engaged in some kinds of this behavior -- but it wasn't to this degree and probably mostly for a good cause -- as in, more directly related to something that happened during the match on the mat.
IMO, this kind of behavior ought to be embarrassing for grown men in their 50s-60s.
Off the mat, there are a lot of stories -- both in Iowa City and in Ames. I'm not old enough or wasn't close enough to know directly ones I've heard regarding Nichols' era. Similarly ones I've heard about the Brands brothers are second hand.
Linked below is the Sports Illustrated article before the 1996 Olympics that talks some about their upbringing in Sheldon. I don't think it talks about it so much in this article, but if I recall, wrestling was a way for them to channel their behavior into something more positive. I am not absolutely positive, but I am almost certain that I met Randy Feekes (pronounced fake-us), who, according to the article, introduced them to the sport. He was younger than me, but older than the Brands, who wouldn't have been wrestling yet. Again, this was a long time ago. But I believe I stayed overnight with Randy Feekes and his parents, who were really good people, for a freestyle tournament in Sheldon, along with a couple of my teammates.
WRESTLEMANIA THE BRANDS TWINS, WHO LIVE TO INFLICT PAIN ON THE MAT, ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ATLANTA OLYMPICS
The Benevolent and Loyal Order of Pessimists makes its home inIowa City. Two hundred members strong, the organization holdsits annual meeting as close as
vault.si.com
For ISU old-timers, Chuck Jean, who won NCAA titles in 1969 and 1970 -- before he was kicked off the team, and apparently out of school -- recently passed away. RIP, Chuck Jean.
In this article from October, they recount his killing a buck at Ledges State Park on a bet:
Albert Lea's Chuck Jean dies at 72, but leaves tall tales of wrestling lore
Jean was a four-time college champion whose bout with a big buck still has people chuckling in awe.
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This. This right here. I have been on a slow burn ever since Cael did what he did, but I found myself cheering on every Penn State guy last year in the finals so TOE would go down.
I started going to wrestling matches in the latter part of the Nichols era. I was/am aware of the may stories about the program, but I never witnessed Coach Nichols exhibit any kind of poor behavior. I would see him on campus, as well as at every match and tournament that I attended, which was many. He was intense, that much was apparent, but very professional. Most of us have also witnessed Gable, who was about as intense as they come, but while he expressed anger, chewed on some refs ears, and made occasional gestures (I only once recall the finger thing), but I don't recall him ever charging the refs, charging the other team, or engaging in any behavior that would rise to the level of the Brands. I think that their actions are a poor reflection on the sport and on their school/team. I find it unfortunate that UI allows it to continue unabated, but then as long as they are winning, apparently how they deport themselves isn't really important.
Sounds like the current Iowa wrestling leadership is less on the cerebral side and more on the reactionary/emotional side. Nothing a little duck tape couldn't have fixed.
Chuck was a good guyI was too young but don't recall anything like this regarding Harold Nichols or his assistants at a meet. And although Gable carried on, I don't recall it ever to such an extreme.
At a meet, though, what people apparently saw yesterday is just a slightly more extreme version of what has been going on for a long time. Again, Gable engaged in some kinds of this behavior -- but it wasn't to this degree and probably mostly for a good cause -- as in, more directly related to something that happened during the match on the mat.
IMO, this kind of behavior ought to be embarrassing for grown men in their 50s-60s.
Off the mat, there are a lot of stories -- both in Iowa City and in Ames. I'm not old enough or wasn't close enough to know directly ones I've heard regarding Nichols' era. Similarly ones I've heard about the Brands brothers are second hand.
Linked below is the Sports Illustrated article before 1996 Olympics that talks some about their upbringing in Sheldon. I don't think it talks about it so much in this article, but if I recall, wrestling was a way for them to channel their behavior into something more positive. I am not absolutely positive, but I am almost certain that I met Randy Feekes (pronounced fake-us), who, according to the article, introduced them to the sport. He was younger than me, but older than the Brands, who wouldn't have been wrestling yet. Again, this was a long time ago. But I believe I stayed overnight with a group of wrestlers with Randy Feekes at his parents, who were really good people, for a freestyle tournament in Sheldon.
WRESTLEMANIA THE BRANDS TWINS, WHO LIVE TO INFLICT PAIN ON THE MAT, ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ATLANTA OLYMPICS
The Benevolent and Loyal Order of Pessimists makes its home inIowa City. Two hundred members strong, the organization holdsits annual meeting as close as
For ISU old-timers, Chuck Jean, who won NCAA titles in 1969 and 1970 -- before he was kicked off the team, and apparently out of school -- recently passed away. RIP, Chuck Jean.
In this article from October, they recount his killing a buck at Ledges State Park on a bet:
Albert Lea's Chuck Jean dies at 72, but leaves tall tales of wrestling lore
Jean was a four-time college champion whose bout with a big buck still has people chuckling in awe.
If wrestlers hate them how come they are still #1 or 2 foar all these years they have been coaching? I would think if wrestlers hate them that perhaps they wouldn't want to wrestle for Iowa?
Honest question.
There’s a enough meatheads in the world to keep their quiver full.
That's a valid question and one I've asked many times. For whatever we see from the outside, parents don't seem concerned about sending their kids there. Their recruiting classes are pretty much always elite.
I do like following ISU wrestling, just haven't really since I moved away (from Ames) and after Gable went to Iowa and they sort of took over. Maybe Dressler can bring it back some, the magic that used to be ISU wrestling.
I tried looking up stuff/tape, comments on Harold Nichols. Could find next to nothing. Too long ago I guess or the archives have him hidden away. Anyway, it just seems to me that Dressler has just a little of the Nichols vibe to him. Can't pin it down because I have nothing to go off of.
This team is worth following again, and hopefully will continue to get better.
I'm not defending them. I'm supporting criticism over character attacks based on rumor or innuendo. As far as sideline shenanigans, I think that they distract from the action, but that doesn't mean that the people involved are always terrible people. Decent people can sometimes do dumb things.
That’s true, but knowing what we do about the brands brothers, what has ever given any indication they’re decent people?
Do you consider court documents rumors or innuendo? NM. Don't care what you think.
