Yeah...I would think the border would be more of a priority for the the Guard. It would make sense with already the flights being shut down from Europe. What kind of look would that be if they have troops in the streets preventing people from walking across the street to get a slushy....but the border is open saying "Welcome to America"?
Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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Yeah...I would think the border would be more of a priority for the the Guard. It would make sense with already the flights being shut down from Europe. What kind of look would that be if they have troops in the streets preventing people from walking across the street to get a slushy....but the border is open saying "Welcome to America"?
And what sucks is basics in keeping the immune system healthy isn't very strongly recommended to begin with. Even bloggers/youtubers etc. that promote healthy lifestyles can't make it simple enough for people to take simple steps. Look up a recipe for healthy eating and it looks like the consumer needs to fill a grocery cart so it's too much work.
We're made to think we have to be in a cycling class in order to exercise, or pay $50/month in order to do yoga, etc.
That's not political--that's something I think many people would agree on.
If services like gas and electric or water don't deal with the public, they're likely low risk and I'd think would be able to keep up and running.
I thought Dr. Drew had a reasonable message, which is: listen to health care professionals, not journalists (who do everything they can to sensationalize any issue).
My wife just stopped by our local pharmacy, and asked him what could be happening. He was told that pharmacies would stay open, but the door locked. No one would be allowed in, and all meds would be delivered. Grocery stores would still be open at least for now. Our local city government would also lock their doors, and any payments would have to be paid online or drop your checks into the afterhours box. City workers would still be reporting to work as normal.
Closing grocery stores would cause more harm than the spread of this virus, if the closure would last more than a week.
That's reasonable, although I'd disagree with the blanket disrespect of journalism. But the overarching point of trusting the medical community is good.
Well you know the old saying...."if you bought it, a truck brought it." Trucks don't magically have loads to haul. And those loads don't get magically processed and packaged. And those trucks go state to state, border to border. So shut down the roads except for commercial use?
Well, somebody deleted the blatantly racist post that one of "no politics!" flop artists dropped in here yesterday, so they're not totally asleep.
true but it hasn’t been the journalists downplaying this. I also haven’t seen many overhype it.
Even in the hardest hit areas in Italy they still have grocery stores and pharmacies open. There is a procedure you have to follow to go to them but it's still allowed.
Avoiding the reason why, I think we are quickly seeing state governments take steps to shutdown things down in more manageable ways. I believe Illinois restricted all bars/restaurants to carry out or delivery. In Italy, supermarkets are limited to X number of people so you stand in a line and wait for one person to come out. Pharmacies deliver or sell at the door, so as to keep them from too much contact. Those are the things we need to move towards doing this week.
They are the public. So are the people packaging the product. Are you going to quarantine them in the plant? Even if they are standing at the recommend socially advised distance from each other. Wear masks, wear gloves. All it takes is one time. This is a virus. It's aerosolized. It can lie dormant on surfaces like stainless steel for a long time. Cough in your hand, cough on a box.....handle some product......product gets shipped to every corner of the country......boom. Like I said, all it takes is once.
As an aside, I am not advocating the shut down of anything. Just throwing it out there.
I believe grocery and pharmacy have stayed open in Italy
What about services like plumbing/appliance, or auto repair? I think those have to be allowed to operate because people can come across massive hardships and health risks without them.
I think once you eliminate congregational or group recreation type things (gyms, theaters, bars, malls, carry-out-only for restaurants, etc) you can't do a straight up shut down here without causing more harm than the risk the virus presents. We rely so much on a myriad of services that are necessary to keep our standard of health and functionality going, that it's tough to just draw a line in the sand once you get past things that have truly non-essential functions (like the ones I listed) in our society.
I agree "non-essential" is a relative term. I just don't think there is a way to broadly define it. They are right to prohibit gatherings of 50 or more, and I'm not sure how much more you can do beyond that.
It's clear the most pressing concern is keeping large groups from gathering together. But mandating the closure of something like a plumbing business could likely cause more problems than it solves given their small-scale interaction with others.
The challenge with prohibiting gatherings of a certain size is that the odds change as more people get infected. As the number of people in attendance goes up, the higher the chances of someone there being infected and spreading it. The more people are infected in the community the lower the cap on group size for it to statistically be "safe." I'm guessing that as this virus continues to spread they will start lowering that number down from 50.
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