It goes deeper than just a Win/Loss record.not sure how that has any relevance but ok..
we’re not sad to see him go either
I think he’s a bad coach, but to say he wasn’t successful at a lower level with a 54-10 record is ridiculous
Records like that don't mean anything unless you get to the NCAA's. Belmont just went 27-3 I think and won't make the tourney. I don't see their coach in hot demand.
It could work if you bring in the right assistants. Hoiberg had Bobby Lutz and Sadler who both had head coaching experience at major programs to get him started.You consider a homerun hire someone like Prohm that doesn’t know how to coach X’s & O’s and needs to bring in someone else To help? Hard pass on that brother.
The one good one did leave for Texas and we’ve sucked ever since. Although not sure if there’s a perfect correlation.It could work if you bring in the right assistants. Hoiberg had Bobby Lutz and Sadler who both had head coaching experience at major programs to get him started.
Prohms assistants seem just as incompetent as he is. Their is a reason ive never heard of any of them or why none have left for better jobs.
Pretty much exactly what we've seen here. No identity or culture. They're a small community-knit university, so they will take all the wins and losses they can get, but they knew his success came at the hands of Billy Kennedy's players.Go on
That's probably a bad example then but my point is it's all about the NCAA tourney when you are at schools like that. Especially when you have 2 NBA point guards to dominate lower conferences. You can beat up Tennessee Tech and Austin Peay all you want but it's ultimately getting to the Big Dance.Only reason he isn't in demand is because he's out and out said he's a Belmont lifer. Won't even entertain looking at other jobs. He's a mid-major guy happy where he's at.
The Rick Byrd, Bob McKillop, Ben Jacobson wing of coaches.
Hoiberg was a unique situation. TJ is not.It could work if you bring in the right assistants. Hoiberg had Bobby Lutz and Sadler who both had head coaching experience at major programs to get him started.
Prohms assistants seem just as incompetent as he is. Their is a reason ive never heard of any of them or why none have left for better jobs.
That's probably a bad example then but my point is it's all about the NCAA tourney when you are at schools like that. Especially when you have 2 NBA point guards to dominate lower conferences.
What was Beards record at Little Rock before he got the Tech gig? I guarantee you he wasn't going 27-3, he got notoriety because he beat Purdue.
Don't think JP would follow that rationale. At least I hope not.Edit: Here is why I think it will be TJ. Because JP is thinking in 4-5 years it might be time for him to move on or retire. So hire your friend and fellow Wisconsin native, and if things go south in that time you retire....TJ can move on to another mid major job...and ISU is left to pick up the pieces.
GrossSounds like TJ is the favorite from a pretty good source. Wouldnt bet my life on it.
That's probably a bad example then but my point is it's all about the NCAA tourney when you are at schools like that. Especially when you have 2 NBA point guards to dominate lower conferences.
What was Beards record at Little Rock before he got the Tech gig? I guarantee you he wasn't going 27-3, he got notoriety because he beat Purdue.
I don't know if Fred is coming back or not, but to say he wouldn't have success this time around is crazy. I think he would instantly keep Foster and Hunter because of his style of play. He made YMCA Georges Niang an NBA player because of his skills. Could you imagine Foster as a stretch big in Fred's offense. Foster is seven feet tall and more athletic. Fred could develop him into a pick and pop guy, and he can run to the rim, and protect the rim. Foster would thrive in Fred's offense. A seven footer who can shoot the 3! Foster would stay because he would instantly see what Fred could do for him and his NBA future.
Now, Fred just finds a couple shooters in the transfer market, which there are more of now and may be able to play right away with the new rules that are coming, that fit his system and they could be a 7-10 seed in year two. Fred could turn it around just as quick because of his reputation from his first stint at ISU.
Well, we both agree on that, I wish him well and to have success at his next gig, I just don't want him anywhere near ISU basketball anymore.I think you missed my point
I would consider 54-10 successful at any level. I don’t think Phrom is a good coach and has inherited good players everywhere he has been to help with his success.
I think he is a great “coach” at a lower level because he can identify under the radar guard talent and at a lower level one or two players like that will give you “success” whether you can coach or not. I don’t think Phrom can coach but I do think that is where he is “successful”
Agree. Doesn't mean he is not incapable of making a next good BB hire.Pollard has done more for ISU athletes than any other person in ISU history
It could work if you bring in the right assistants. Hoiberg had Bobby Lutz and Sadler who both had head coaching experience at major programs to get him started.
Prohms assistants seem just as incompetent as he is. Their is a reason ive never heard of any of them or why none have left for better jobs.
If Greg Lansing doesn't get his contract renewed at Indiana State, which is the current speculation, then I think he could be a great fit at ISU for a new, inexperienced head coach in the same kind of Phil Martelli role that you mentioned earlier. I know that his record at Indiana State has not set the world on fire, but it's also probably the hardest job in the MVC and is traditionally under-resourced compared to a lot of other mid-major programs. He's well known regionally as a very solid X's and O's kind of coach.
Why exactly is Indiana State the hardest MVC job??