Campbell clock management

[Htowncyfan]

CMC channeled his inner Earle Bruce..but somehow worse. Three yards and a cloud of crap.

 

[nfrine]

They should Geofence Campbell’s house. Seemed like he might have had money on Iowa…

He had the under....

 

[ClonesFTW]

Everyone seemed indifferent in my section. Probably because we’ve all seen that game 10x before.

This. We’ve all seen that same movie over and over by now. 14 points is nothing to teams with an offense, for Iowa State it’s a death sentence.

It makes me furious every year Kirk just sits back and waits for us to make a mistake then coasts the rest of the game. And it works.

 

[Trice]

I thought it was the worse crowd for an ISU-Iowa game than I can ever remember. Everyone seemed indifferent in my section. Probably because we’ve all seen that game 10x before.

I don't know how one measures this...you have to remember that there was almost nothing to get excited about. We have a blocked FG right out of the gate - a "here we go again" moment if ever there was one - give up a FG the drive after, a TD the drive after that, and at that point we all know we're dead in the water because all of our losses look the same, especially against Iowa.

I think the crowd would have been there if we'd shown more signs of life. Going forward, I wonder if people have already disinvested emotionally in the program and crowd intensity may just not be great until they earn it back.

 

[BCWAngus]

Cambell has won only 7 games when behind at the end of the 3 quarter. Technically we COULD have tied or won the game on the last drive, but Cambell's record doesn't show that.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I think they're slow to get the play in and force the lineman to sit in their stance too long. Hard to get a rhythm when you're staring at the coaches waiting for the check instead of the players analyzing the defense for themselves. Not only that we don't force the defense into difficult positions. We threw underneath their umbrella all game, which is what they want. Should be using Noel to flash across the safety from the slot and giving Higgins or Brahmer a shot one on one. We played scared in my opinion. We aren't looking to impose our will or counter scheme with play calling. We look like we're trying to keep the wheels on the cart.

 

[Yellow Snow]

I think they're slow to get the play in and force the lineman to sit in their stance too long. Hard to get a rhythm when you're staring at the coaches waiting for the check instead of the players analyzing the defense for themselves. Not only that we don't force the defense into difficult positions. We threw underneath their umbrella all game, which is what they want. Should be using Noel to flash across the safety from the slot and giving Higgins or Brahmer a shot one on one. We played scared in my opinion. We aren't looking to impose our will or counter scheme with play calling. We look like we're trying to keep the wheels on the cart.

Noel can't catch the ball, so that strategy is a non-starter. Iowa probably wanted us to throw to that guy. It's an incompletion whether he is open or not.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Nothing like a back breaking 7 minute drive down by 14 in the 4th quarter. That was the most boneheaded thing I think I’ve ever seen

Edit: I was absolutely losing my mind at this during the game. No one else seemed to care

TV showed a couple of crowd shots during that drive where you could tell the fans wanted more urgency. Gesturing, you could read lips, etc. That was pretty telling, to have video of a bunch of fans in the crowd visibly upset at the pace of the offense.

 

[flycy]

I've never seen anything like it (and I've watched a lot of football). Not only were they taking their sweet time snapping the ball, they called a bunch of running plays. Sure we had all 3 timeouts, but you want to leave as much time on the clock as you can.

My thought was perhaps they haven't practiced hurry up enough to run it reliably at this point in the season, it is a very young offense and practice time may have been needed for other things. The time it took to get plays in though was frustrating, a first time play caller probably contributed to that. Better to execute than hurry, but some urgency would have been nice. In the end, there was time, just got stopped. Thought the quick run should have been on 3rd down, it was too obvious on 4th.

 

[madguy30]

My thought was perhaps they haven't practiced hurry up enough to run it reliably at this point in the season, it is a very young offense and practice time may have been needed for other things. The time it took to get plays in though was frustrating, a first time play caller probably contributed to that. Better to execute than hurry, but some urgency would have been nice. In the end, their was time, just got stopped. Thought the quick run should have been on 3rd down, it was too obvious on 4th.

If they haven't practiced a hurry up/high tempo set then they're over complicating things or really disorganized. That's the kind of thing that should be on the practice schedule.

That many offensive players having the forearm play sheets feels like a Fix It Felix moment and all of the slow roll shifting has for a real long time.

 

[ZRF]

My thought was perhaps they haven't practiced hurry up enough to run it reliably at this point in the season, it is a very young offense and practice time may have been needed for other things. The time it took to get plays in though was frustrating, a first time play caller probably contributed to that. Better to execute than hurry, but some urgency would have been nice. In the end, there was time, just got stopped. Thought the quick run should have been on 3rd down, it was too obvious on 4th.

This take is ridiculous. Getting in plays in a timely manner has been a problem ever since Campbell got here. It's a problem early in the season, in the middle of the season, and a problem late. If a big time college coach can't figure out how to, or find it important enough to make sure his offense can get plays in efficiently (for rhythm) or at LEAST make sure they can do it when game and clock situations necessitate, that's a massive problem.

Quit making ******** excuses. Campbell is ******* up and there's no way around it. Yesterday was so egregious even the drunk, old homers were getting riled. Rightfully so.

 

[ZRF]

TV showed a couple of crowd shots during that drive where you could tell the fans wanted more urgency. Gesturing, you could read lips, etc. That was pretty telling, to have video of a bunch of fans in the crowd visibly upset at the pace of the offense.

Not just see but here it. The displeasure of the crowd came through on the telecast more than a few times on the touchdown drive. Even the blue haired slack jaws were getting antsy.

 

[LAClone]

The idea that our coaching staff hasn't even practiced a hurry up/tempo offense is even more of an indictment than not knowing how to manage the clock, not less.

 

[cayin]

Priority # 1 was to take as much time as needed to pull within 7 points. Dont play with any urgency at all. Doesn't matter how much time you leave on the clock. Then if you are fortunate enough to get the ball back with 2 minutes left and no timeouts, then that is the only time when it is appropriate to play with urgency. OK.

Becht took the play clock down to 10 seconds or under on almost every play on the TD drive. That's 20 seconds that was unnecessarily wasted on every play. What did those 20 seconds accomplish? It wouldn't have taken much to give ISU another 3 minutes of time for the last possession.

Look at the last drive. We were running on 4th and 1 at our own 45. Even if Norton picked it up, we would have already eaten up 1 of the 2 minutes remaining. At the pace we were going, we were looking at needing to throw a hail Mary to tie the game. Not good clock management.

Pretty sure the statistics show that the offense has the advantage in those hurry up situations... unless you are Navy or maybe ISU?

I mentioned this before, but I took a class called Theory of Football taught by the legendary John Gagliardi (St Johns). The guy was a character, funny as hell. Anyway, to this day I remember what he said, when behind in the second half, even by a little bit, do everything you can to lengthen the game. You want to maximize possessions. Conversely, when ahead in the second half, do everything you can to shorten the game. CMC and staff seemingly do not agree with his philosophy.

 

[cayin]

CMC channeled his inner Earle Bruce..but somehow worse. Three yards and a cloud of crap.

Yet Earl had the nations second best offense one year when he was here.

 

[madguy30]

CMC channeled his inner Earle Bruce..but somehow worse. Three yards and a cloud of crap.

Again he's one of the most revered ISU coaches ever so I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.

 

[theshadow]

Yet Earl had the nations second best offense one year when he was here.

There were fans who wanted him fired after three straight 8-win seasons. Out of 11 games. In that era of the Big 8.

 

[madguy30]

There were fans who wanted him fired after three straight 8-win seasons. Out of 11 games. In that era of the Big 8.

At IOWA STATE.

Good to know some things haven't changed.

 

[joefrog]

At IOWA STATE.

Good to know some things haven't changed.

Many of us recognize that today there is revenue sharing and that ISU has NEVER had such favorably comparable facilities and stadium.

CMC has shown almost zero growth as a game day coach in almost a decade at ISU. Still no hurry-up, game clock awareness, or preservation of timeouts. Continued below par offensive line play. Simplistic and slow developing plays.

Curious, how much do you need to see before you begin to at least consider it might be time to move on?

 

[Urbandale2013]

Two key questions regarding clock management

1- Would we still score a TD if we moved faster on that drive?
2- Would more urgency have gotten us one more possession with meaningful time left on the clock?

Those are both in doubt, but assuming the answer to both is yes, then we would have saved our timeouts when Iowa had the ball, punted on 4th down instead of going for it, and then used timeouts while trying to force another Iowa punt. At best, we end up right back where we were.

I get it, I was yelling at the radio to get us to move faster, but in terms of why we lost, clock management is quite a ways down on the list.

H

I’m pretty confident that we wouldn’t have scored if we went more hurry up. The team was more in need of the confidence of driving the field than more time on the clock.

In a perfect world I would have loved to go faster but long term we will benefit more from what we did.