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kingcy

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We still might not make a bowl game, but we would have a better record for sure. Out of the 36792 teams in the B1G, only a few of them are actually good. Ohio State is over rated. Michigan State is over rated. Northwestern got a dose of reality and finally played a worthy opponent this week. Purdue is one small step up from Kansas. Nebraska is a joke. Wisconsin is not very good this year. I don't think any of those teams would be ranked in the top ten if they were in the Big 12.

They still would beat ISU, except maybe Purdue.
 

norcalcy

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Sure. Great way to be Little Brother forever. Let's go be a junior member of the B1G. No thanks. Can't believe how people undervalue where we are at right now. BYU and a bunch of others would take our spot in a minute. Good league with good competition. Stop whining and figure out a way to compete in the Big XII. Time to put on the big boy pants and start taking football seriously. President Leath, what say you?
 

Erik4Cy

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Why do our conference teams continue to **** the bed in bowl games against other conferences? Don't tell me it doesn't matter.

Check the bowls from last year if you don't believe me. I can't post the link. Big ten did very well. Big twelve did very bad.

Last year was a little different than recent memory and you're correct. However, I don't have the stats, but I actually believe the Big 12 has done much better in the last 10-15 years in bowl games then Big 10 members of the time did and Big 12 was better overall head to head with Big 10 before last year where Big 10 had a good go of it.
 

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Our record wouldn't change much if we were in the Big Ten and we could lose our Texas recruiting base. The Big Ten is built on line play and playing in the trenches; something that we are constantly bad at every year. Our O-Line is never good and this year's D-line is the best we have had in years yet we gave up over 700 yards today. We might not lose 70-21 to teams like Baylor or TCU, but we would lose 49-0 to teams like MSU, Mich, etc and it would be just as embarrassing. This is pointless since the Big Ten would never want to add ISU as it gains them absolutely nothing; Kansas and Kansas State would have a much better chance of joining the conference, but that won't happen either.
 

Jambalaya

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our football lack of success will inhibit any move to the Big 10, any time soon.

Our suckiness in football derails the other great things about ISU===beauty of campus, enrollment, 3rd largest fb stadium, top-2 in mbb attendance and WBB attendance. Good wrestling, track, cross country, golf programs--great MBB and WBB programs.

We have a MAJOR perception problem, and it all stems from our fb program
 

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Our record wouldn't change much if we were in the Big Ten and we could lose our Texas recruiting base. The Big Ten is built on line play and playing in the trenches; something that we are constantly bad at every year. Our O-Line is never good and this year's D-line is the best we have had in years yet we gave up over 700 yards today. We might not lose 70-21 to teams like Baylor or TCU, but we would lose 49-0 to teams like MSU, Mich, etc and it would be just as embarrassing. This is pointless since the Big Ten would never want to add ISU as it gains them absolutely nothing; Kansas and Kansas State would have a much better chance of joining the conference, but that won't happen either.

I wouldn't say those Yards are the D lines fault, most of it was the secondary. You could argue they didn't get pressure on, but it's hard to get pressure rushing 3 players and that's Rhodes fault. The D has been decent this year stopping the rush and our rush game has been great including the run blocking. That's the style that fits in the big ten. In the big 12 it's who can gunsling their way to more points. That's not our style at all.
 

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our football lack of success will inhibit any move to the Big 10, any time soon.

Our suckiness in football derails the other great things about ISU===beauty of campus, enrollment, 3rd largest fb stadium, top-2 in mbb attendance and WBB attendance. Good wrestling, track, cross country, golf programs--great MBB and WBB programs.

We have a MAJOR perception problem, and it all stems from our fb program

Absolutely, try leaving a state like Colorado for Iowa State and see the kind of looks/questions people give you. People at least where I'm from simply just don't know Iowa state or any of its great features
 

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I wouldn't say those Yards are the D lines fault, most of it was the secondary. You could argue they didn't get pressure on, but it's hard to get pressure rushing 3 players and that's Rhodes fault. The D has been decent this year stopping the rush and our rush game has been great including the run blocking. That's the style that fits in the big ten. In the big 12 it's who can gunsling their way to more points. That's not our style at all.
Tech ran for 261 yards today with a 8.4 average, that's terrible especially since Tech is a passing offense. Tech and Kansas have the 2 worst defenses in the Big 12, running on them doesn't mean we could run on BIG teams, you can make fun of the BIG all you want, but the defenses in that league are legit. Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State all have better defenses than everybody in the Big 12. Our O-Line play is bad every year and the top linemen in the state will never consistently choose ISU over Iowa especially with Kirk there, they would be idiots to. We would have an impossible time scoring in the BIG, heck we have only scored more than 24 points in regulation against Iowa 1 time in the last 17 years. This is the best D-Line we have had in 10 years, so when we go back to having D-lines like we have in the past we'll get run over. The only BIG teams that I think we would beat are Purdue and Maryland we might be competitive with others, but I doubt we'd win.
 

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I believe Iowa State could be competitive in the Big Ten. Our wrestling team would definitely benefit from joining the Big Ten, since wrestling is nearly non-existent in the Big XII. However, as others have said, it is extremely unlikely that we will ever be invited. The University of Iowa, as well as Nebraska, Minnesota and others, would probably fight our admission tooth and nail. If, or probably "when", the Big XII finally implodes, I would imagine K-State and Kansas would probably get an invite over Iowa State just because of K-State's football program and KU's basketball program, of course. Not to mention direct access to the Kansas City television market and $$$. I agree that ISU would be a good fit, geographically, and with natural rivalries with Iowa, Minnesota and Nebraska. But, again, they will never allow it. At this point, we bring absolutely nothing to the table in terms of money or expanded TV viewership.

According to "sources" in the Big10 the only team against ISU joining the last time they had discussions was Iowa. Minnesota had nothing negative to say about us coming in. I'm betting Nebraska would actually like ISU in the conference seeing as they have basically dominated us over the years, plus ISU wasn't the reason Nebraska left the Big12 in the first place.

Unfortunately, it will never happen. The Big10 footprint is already all over the area, ISU doesn't bring in another large market for them. It's all about money, and ISU just doesn't bring enough to the table.
 

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According to "sources" in the Big10 the only team against ISU joining the last time they had discussions was Iowa. Minnesota had nothing negative to say about us coming in. I'm betting Nebraska would actually like ISU in the conference seeing as they have basically dominated us over the years, plus ISU wasn't the reason Nebraska left the Big12 in the first place.

Unfortunately, it will never happen. The Big10 footprint is already all over the area, ISU doesn't bring in another large market for them. It's all about money, and ISU just doesn't bring enough to the table.

Your first paragraph is completely made up. What 'sources' are you talking about? Do you have a link?
 

cytown

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According to "sources" in the Big10 the only team against ISU joining the last time they had discussions was Iowa. Minnesota had nothing negative to say about us coming in. I'm betting Nebraska would actually like ISU in the conference seeing as they have basically dominated us over the years, plus ISU wasn't the reason Nebraska left the Big12 in the first place.

Unfortunately, it will never happen. The Big10 footprint is already all over the area, ISU doesn't bring in another large market for them. It's all about money, and ISU just doesn't bring enough to the table.

I can tell you pulled that first paragraph out of your ***. Iowa carries little to no weight on any decisions the Big10 makes. They have the smallest footprint and are one of the smallest schools.

We do not have a large fanbase or TV footprint. BIG10 has Iowa and surrounding states. Adding ISU dilutes the revenue they are currently distributing today. That's it. It really isn't any more complicated than that.
 

CyBobby

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The fact that people assume we would win there either right now is comical


I agree just roll the tape of the Wisky v Nebraska game...........ISU scores 21 points in the 1st half and it takes both Wisky and Nebbie a full half of football to score 21 points......


Nebraska goes on to Lose another close game...lol, it seems the B1G is not working out for the good old Big Red...


"Nobody in the Big Ten is afraid of the Nebraska Football Program...quoting Sam McKeown Omaha World Herald
 

cybot

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our football lack of success will inhibit any move to the Big 10, any time soon.

Our suckiness in football derails the other great things about ISU===beauty of campus, enrollment, 3rd largest fb stadium, top-2 in mbb attendance and WBB attendance. Good wrestling, track, cross country, golf programs--great MBB and WBB programs.

We have a MAJOR perception problem, and it all stems from our fb program

Don't forget about our water....we have great water. :smile:
 

Wally86

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It's not like Iowa dominated us that much, and they're going to be the big ten west champions.... We could certainly at least put games to if not win, against Purdue Indiana Minnesota(almost lost to CSU) Rutgers and Maryland
how much yardage did ISU get in the second half versus Iowa? Iowa came out had a bad first half early in the season, adjusted and dominated us the second half.
 

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our football lack of success will inhibit any move to the Big 10, any time soon.

Our suckiness in football derails the other great things about ISU===beauty of campus, enrollment, 3rd largest fb stadium, top-2 in mbb attendance and WBB attendance. Good wrestling, track, cross country, golf programs--great MBB and WBB programs.

We have a MAJOR perception problem, and it all stems from our fb program
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The third largest stadium in the Big XII doesn't carry much weight when it would be one of the smallest in the Big Ten. Like others have said, the fact of the matter is Iowa State doesn't bring any money to the Big Ten, so it would never, ever in a million years send an invite to Iowa State. No one in the Big Ten cares about your golf, track, cross country, and women's basketball teams. Lol at the thought that might have any influence.
 

TensasCy

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The third largest stadium in the Big XII doesn't carry much weight when it would be one of the smallest in the Big Ten. Like others have said, the fact of the matter is Iowa State doesn't bring any money to the Big Ten, so it would never, ever in a million years send an invite to Iowa State. No one in the Big Ten cares about your golf, track, cross country, and women's basketball teams. Lol at the thought that might have any influence.

Nice try, but we don't want to be in the b1g.