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M3MEPLEASE

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Big 12 continually gets embarrassed in previous BCS bowl games and their bigger bowl games when they face teams that actually play defense.

Going to happen again this year.
 

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Northwestern 94-91 50.81%, one conference co-championship, 8 bowl games, 1-7 bowl record.
Minnesota 90-97 48.13% 11 Bowl games, 3-8 bowl record
ISU 77-108 41.62% 8 Bowl games 3-5 bowl record.
 

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ISU can compete in the Big 12. It just needs the right leadership. How is the Big 10 working for Nebraska?
 

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Purude is 597–537–48 (.525) all time with 17 bowl games (9-8).

Illinois is 592–559–51 (.514) all time with 18 bowl games (8-10).

Iowa State 510–620–46 (.453) all time with 12 bowl games (3-9).

I absolutely believe Illinois and Purdue would beat Iowa State on a regular basis.

Tell me, what is kansas states all time record and compare it to Oklahoma. Tell me who will win!
 

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ISU can compete in the Big 12. It just needs the right leadership. How is the Big 10 working for Nebraska?

Nebraska made one of the dumbest head coach hires in college football history. Hire a 62 year old man to bring 12 win seasons back to Nebraska? right.....................
 

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If I had my way, I wish ISU would be in a new conference based around geography made up of KU, K State, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, NorthWestern, and Iowa.
 

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Wow. The lack of football acumen on this board is astounding. That's to be expected with some of you 150lb civil engineers. I have season tickets to both ISU and Iowa. Graduated from both schools. The glaring differences between the two leagues is like night and day. Big 12 games resemble 7 on 7 football leagues with skill players well versed on ball skills. The biggest difference between the two leagues is the strength of the defensive front 7's. The Big 10 has far better LBs and defensive linemen along wIth better tackling secondaries. I have yet to see anyone on ISU's front 7 that would start ahead of anyone at Wisconsin, Illinois or even Pitt.
 
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Wow. The lack of football acumen on this board is astounding. That's to be expected with some of you 150lb civil engineers. I have season tickets to both ISU and Iowa. Graduated from both schools. The glaring differences between the two leagues is like night and day. Big 12 games resemble 7 on 7 football leagues with skill players well versed on ball skills. The biggest difference between the two leagues is the strength of the defensive front 7's. The Big 10 has far better LBs and defensive linemen along wIth better tackling secondaries. I have yet to see anyone on ISU's front 7 that would start ahead of anyime at Wisconsin, Illinois or even Pitt

Nice to hear from you, hok.
 

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Nebraska went 9-3 their first season? We can easily easily easily easily be a Bowl team if we were big ten. We could schedule an easier non conference for one, and then you add some easy wins from the conference like the many teams I've mentioned many times in this thread you have at least 6 every year easy peasy. We could absolutely 100% do it.

You still have to beat the teams you play no matter how bad they are. ISU has problems beating MAC teams, FCS teams, and Big 12 teams they should be able to compete with. What makes you think going to the Big 10 will solve all that.
 

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When you nearly get 70-pointed by anyone, threads like this happen.

What makes anyone think ISU would win in any P5 conference if they can't win in the one they're in?
 

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Nebraska made one of the dumbest head coach hires in college football history. Hire a 62 year old man to bring 12 win seasons back to Nebraska? right.....................

No they lost their identity going to the Big 10.
 

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In my opinion we need to beg and plead for admission to the big 10. Football wise, this team simply can't compete well in the big 12. You're going up against teams from the absolute hotbed of football and prospects thereof. In the big 12 there's typically what, 1-2 even conceivably winnable games a year in KU and maybe whatever other team isn't good? Think of all the winnable games we could have in the big ten... Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, usually northwestern, often Iowa and surely we being Iowa state can upset once in awhile too but.... Absolutely a better chance to win 6 games or more and make bowls each year. I know that's never the goal but for a program like Iowa State we will never win a conference(we would have equal the chance over Ohio state and Michigan as we do now, about 0) we just need to hope for bowls and at least some success. Sure maybe the big 12 is slightly better at basketball now but that can be argued too. That would maybe just mean more success for us, not competing with Kansas just being the best every year besides maybe some Michigan and Indiana contention. Not to mention the other key factors: more money, a television network rather than terrible feeding of money to Texas, a more stable conference that doesn't try stupid things like one true champion, and a naturally better feel.... Iowa fits in better culturally and competitively with a Midwest conference- being a Midwest state- than it does with the south/southwest/whatever you wanna call it, and we could have natural rivalries with Nebraska and Minnesota and of course Iowa then in conference with us.

1. Holy wall of text.
2. I didn't read holy wall of text.
3. Big 10 doesn't want Iowa State.
4. Begging and pleading won't help.
5. Holy ******* wall of text!
 

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Give me a B1G football schedule any day of the week. Iowa might go unbeaten this year because of the joke of a schedule they have.

If ISU had Iowa's schedule what makes you think ISU would win more games than with their current schedule?
 

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If ISU had Iowa's schedule what makes you think the outcome would be different?

We still might not make a bowl game, but we would have a better record for sure. Out of the 36792 teams in the B1G, only a few of them are actually good. Ohio State is over rated. Michigan State is over rated. Northwestern got a dose of reality and finally played a worthy opponent this week. Purdue is one small step up from Kansas. Nebraska is a joke. Wisconsin is not very good this year. I don't think any of those teams would be ranked in the top ten if they were in the Big 12.
 

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We still might not make a bowl game, but we would have a better record for sure. Out of the 36792 teams in the B1G, only a few of them are actually good. Ohio State is over rated. Michigan State is over rated. Northwestern got a dose of reality and finally played a worthy opponent this week. Purdue is one small step up from Kansas. Nebraska is a joke. Wisconsin is not very good this year. I don't think any of those teams would be ranked in the top ten if they were in the Big 12.

There are not 36,792 teams in the b1g. Other than that, you are absolutely correct.