Last time I checked, the vaunted Iowa offense was scoring 65 while the lowly Iowa State offense had 90
Been watching non Big 12 basketball lately...
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I still don't want them in the tournament.
Best of 5 or 7, give me ISU 3/4-1 at worst.
But not in one game scenario where Iowa plays out of their minds.
If you don’t use metrics it’s basically impossible to make a determination on who is “best”. Basketball is a very swingy sport and the tournament has never been good at consistently crowning or determining best teams. Sometimes you get bad matchups, sometimes you can’t make a basket to save your soul, and some teams/coaches are just horrible in the tournament.
This is just a wild topic to be started from a Big12 fan. I get the nervousness I guess but your squad is astronomically better than last year.
Oh, I wouldn't either, but it's a loooong way from the play-in game to where they'd meet us, and we all know Fran isn't going far.
IIrc last year's tourney game for ISU was a one off even by their standards of being pretty marginal on offense (putting it nicely).
I think every single player had their worst day of the season by a long shot. There was something like if even 3 players were better ISU has a good chance to win that game.
What is wrong with you people. Our team is head and shoulders better than Iowa. Stop fearing them.
That’s kinda my point, in the tournament stuff happens. Virginia lost to a 16 seed and then won it all the next year with basically the same team. The tournament results obv matter but don’t override a successful season because in a one game elimination format all it takes is for a team to get hot and the better team can easily lose.
I don’t think Iowa still has a PG that could even get into an offense against our defense. If you shut down their running game, they struggle. We’ve never had issues getting back on defense this year. You make it a half court game and they struggle to score.
And they had zero rim protection against us, and that hasn’t changed. They are still awful at rim protection.
I think the NCAA tournament has actually been really really good at determining the BEST team in the last 10 years or so. Its just a crappy way to determine a "Sweet 16" due to the reasons you mention.
demoncore1031
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Ever since I wrote to overseas games in December and January, I have come to love basketball again. I still won't watch or follow the NBA, but I have been watching more college hoops and even attended my first college game a couple weeks ago. Will be going to another game Wednesday night in The Pit.
Exactly. The level of defense played in the Big East, Big 10 and ACC is in a completely different stratosphere then the defense played in the Big 12. Outside of the blue bloods like Duke, UNC, Purdue and Uconn I would absolutely love to play these teams in the NCAA tournament. Could we lose to a Marquette, Creighton or Illinois in the Sweet 16. Absolutely but teams like Iowa, Northwestern, Clemson or Wake Forest we would absolutely steamroll. Think about what Houston has done to teams in the past in the tournament. Elite offense teams with athleticism all over the floor and upperclassmen in the backcourt are the teams that scare me at this point. And quite frankly there are only a handful of those teams in the country.
This is pathetic guys. I’m thinking about teams like SDSU, Utah St, S. Carolina, Auburn, and Dayton in the 2nd round and a bunch of people are worrying about Iowa lol.
There's nothing to fear from them...it's the one game scenario that seems like a 'shoe in' type of deal that won't be.
Was ISU head and shoulders better than other teams that have upset them?
Reminds me of Days of Thunder when Cole sets the track record in practice. Rowdy tells him we'll see how he does in a crowd. Same concept. They lost by 25 in December. If that's not the basketball equivalent of getting put into the wall, I don't know what is.
As for the opinion that we don't have an Alpha that can get a bucket when needed, that has some validity. But like others have said, we have 3-5 really good options on the floor at any given time and we also have a defense that reduces the chances that we will need that Alpha to match an opponent, scoring-wise.
I just can't see Iowa getting a lot of quality looks or in rhythm shots against us. Our defense would absolutely have Fran and friends hating life. Plus our guards would get to the basket at will on Iowa.
The only time we’ve been upset since the Hampton loss in 2001 was UAB. Even then, that team in 2015 had some real chemistry/team issues at the end of the year that was starting to show up on the court.
This is every team in the country lol. No one is undefeated, no one is unscathed from losing a game they “should” have won. This is a seriously sad. Get to tournament, get best possible seed, play games. That’s all that can be done. For every team in CBB.
What I’m hearing in this thread today is “maybe it would be better if we didn’t make the tournament because we could get upset by a hot-shooting team and my ego will take a hit”. Explain it to me if I’m wrong.
