Basketball Student Ticket Policy To Remain The Same

besserheimerphat

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This. We're basically walking away from more money, aren't we?

In fairness, the students did fill it up for the Okie St game and were terrific. But everyone knows we could sell all of those balcony seats to the general public. In fact, I am hoping we sell out Hilton with season tickets next year.

Actually it sounds like they didn't.
 

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I think the most logical policy would be getting rid of football/basketball combo passes, instituting a lottery system with loyalty preference points for "premium" games, and developing a way for students to easily transfer tickets if they can't attend the game.

Could somebody explain to me why this would help. As I understand it, if you just want football tickets, then just buy football tickets. If you just want basketball tickets, you have to buy the combo pass, even if you are just interested in the basketball games. Their might be students who buy the combo pass who don't go to football games but if they buy the combo pass and then just go to football games they are just stupid.
 

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Could somebody explain to me why this would help. As I understand it, if you just want football tickets, then just buy football tickets. If you just want basketball tickets, you have to buy the combo pass, even if you are just interested in the basketball games. Their might be students who buy the combo pass who don't go to football games but if they buy the combo pass and then just go to football games they are just stupid.

You get the ones who actually want basketball with basketball only tickets. I think that would solve a lot of the perceived problem, even though the #s suggest that our student attendance is pretty good.
 

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You get the ones who actually want basketball with basketball only tickets. I think that would solve a lot of the perceived problem, even though the #s suggest that our student attendance is pretty good.
But if you didn't want the basketball tickets, then why would you buy the combo pass.
 

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But if you didn't want the basketball tickets, then why would you buy the combo pass.

Maybe it sounds like football + extra stuff (if someone wants it)= some kind of value? It seems that the general conclusion has been that the combo thing has mostly been football sales.
I haven't looked at those prices for a long time. I am glad to see that student prices aren't increasing.
 

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Actually it sounds like they didn't.

There's a difference between filling the seats and going past standing room only regulations. It was filled for all intents and purposes. Just because some old geezer in the lower bowl doesn't show up doesn't mean Hilton isn't "full" and the same applies to students.
 

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I hope they don't have it sell out at any point this next year. Keep letting all the stupid students buy tickets that only go to 0-2 games a year.
 

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They should over sell it more.

I had an irrational anger during January and February when the student section was half full at best for a team that was ranked the entire time. A lot of those games, Iowa State was also playing a ranked team.

I have sisters at Iowa State and early on in the year they had to start standing in line 3 or 4 hours before the games in order to get lower level seats (as the letter said, except for Iowa, you could have walked in and gotten upper level seats for all games). Towards the end of the season, they were showing up maybe an hour before and still getting lower level seats.

I just can't understand not wanting to go to those games.
 

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you don't want ISU games sold out? i want every one sold out.



I promise to drive from Marshalltown to every mens AND womens bball game next year if I can buy lower section tickets for $259. I think I spent more than that in fees this past year.
That isn't what I meant. I don't want ISU to stop selling student tickets. Hell, even if 5,000 students will buy the, sell them.
 

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At this point we might as well over-sell more. Make more cash and increase the chance the section will be full. Or do the general admission resell before tip, however I am not convinced enough people are going to drive to Ames with the risk of not getting a ticket. I suppose if the AD successfully marketed the game-day walk-up, it would work well enough considering there is no downside.

Student attendance is trending this way everywhere, even for football games in the SEC, so it is going to take the AD thinking in a different manner than what worked in previous decades. Marketing and making it more appealing for students would help. Have a student tail-gate tent/area with heaters for waiting in line.
Also, economic incentives may be needed. We have the technology to have real-time tracking and analysis of ticket usage. I would be tempted to increase the cost of the tickets by a very small amount, plus use some of the extra $ from overselling, and offer some type of refund or other incentive to those that make it to 80% of the games. Kids do crazy things for much less $ or rewards.
 

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That isn't what I meant. I don't want ISU to stop selling student tickets. Hell, even if 5,000 students will buy the, sell them.


I agree, I don't think they should sell out of tickets. Sell as many as students will buy them, then its first come first serve. For $259, I don't think anyone should complain about waiting in line. The Line was always a blast when I was in school. Embrace it, It means you get to watch a team worth waiting in line for. Historically that only has been 1-3 yrs per decade at Iowa State. So consider yourself lucky to stand in line.
 

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I think the most logical policy would be getting rid of football/basketball combo passes, instituting a lottery system with loyalty preference points for "premium" games, and developing a way for students to easily transfer tickets if they can't attend the game.
The ticket transfer system is absolute crap. The TicketExchanger never works if you are looking for a ticket. And the $2 transfer fee is bull. You also get charged $2 if you want to print your ticket. At least back when they gave out real tickets, it wasnt a massive hassel to sell them, or even give them away.

Also, overselling more wont fix the problem. It might make it worse. What happened this year was, as a student, if you wanted a decent seat, you had to be at Hilton 4 or 5 hours before tip for Iowa and Michigan. When it is -20 and you are stuck in line for 4 hours just to get nose bleed seats, that TV screen in your appartment back home begins to look pretty appealing. That happened twice early in the season and students didnt want to have to deal with that all season, so they just watched the games from home and try and sell off their tickets. This meant too many trying to sell tickets and not enough demand for all of them. Selling more will just exhaserbate that problem.
 
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The ticket transfer system is absolute crap. The TicketExchanger never works if you are looking for a ticket. And the $2 transfer fee is bull. You also get charged $2 if you want to print your ticket. At least back when they gave out real tickets, it wasnt a massive hassel to sell them, or even give them away.

Also, overselling more wont fix the problem. It might make it worse. What happened this year was, as a student, if you wanted a decent seat, you had to be at Hilton 4 or 5 hours before tip for Iowa and Michigan. When it is -20 and you are stuck in line for 4 hours just to get nose bleed seats, that TV screen in your appartment back home begins to look pretty appealing. That happened twice early in the season and students didnt want to have to deal with that all season, so they just watched the games from home and try and sell off their tickets. This meant too many trying to sell tickets and not enough demand for all of them. Selling more will just exhaserbate that problem.
Good story, but that never happened, and there are no nosebleed seats in Hilton for a match-up of top-25 teams.
 

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Good story, but that never happened, and there are no nosebleed seats in Hilton for a match-up of top-25 teams.
As a fanatic, I agree. I still tried to go to all the games when I could, but for the casual fan, they are less likely to devote that sort of time for subpar seats. Those are also the fans that dont know the rankings of every team that comes through Ames and dont really understand the implications of each matchup.

If you want people to show, you need to appeal to the casual fan. Targeting the hardcore fanatics doesnt help becase they are already gonna be there.
 

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