Barry Bonds failed drug test

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If he tested positive during the season, why was this not released and he suspended.

Can Barry just go away? He's not helping the game of baseball at all.
 

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In all honesty, unless you're a diehard baseball fan, records and controversy are what keeps it interesting. Barry Bonds gives the casual fan someone to root against... and that's not all bad for baseball.
 

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Re: Barry Bonds fails drug test

If he tested positive during the season, why was this not released and he suspended.

Can Barry just go away? He's not helping the game of baseball at all.

Because he didn't tell positive for steriods, he didn't get suspended.

He failed an amphetamine test...according to baseball's super great drug testing policy, you get a free positive test with that one. Oh yeah, and they keep it private (Ooopps). You get suspended 25 games after your second positive test and they actually tell people.

A BS policy in my book.
 

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I certainly don't condone drug use.

But memo to everyone: The pitchers are doing performance enhancing drugs too (in fact maybe in higher numbers than position players)! Unfortunately, it seems everyone is.

I am a year younger than Roger Clemens and I know how my body has changed over the last 10 years. I have no evidence, but I firmly believe that he is doing something that is not "normal" to sustain his performance as well. You can throw the Big Unit in there as well...it's just not normal for guys in their mid 40s to be dominating baseball with power.
 

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Re: Barry Bonds fails drug test

Because he didn't tell positive for steriods, he didn't get suspended.

He failed an amphetamine test...according to baseball's super great drug testing policy, you get a free positive test with that one. Oh yeah, and they keep it private (Ooopps). You get suspended 25 games after your second positive test and they actually tell people.

A BS policy in my book.

Baseball is shooting itself in the foot. Foolish policy...they've created loopholes for the players to avoid suspensions and public humiliation.

I do see ColoradoClone's point...a nifty one in fact. Controversy does bring attention.

Is this the type of attention "America's Pastime" wants though?

I doubt it.

I certainly don't condone drug use.

But memo to everyone: The pitchers are doing performance enhancing drugs too (in fact maybe in higher numbers than position players)! Unfortunately, it seems everyone is.

If everyone in a room - lets say hundreds of people - murders someone...being "everyone did it", does that make it ok?

I couldn't care less who is using performance enhancing drugs or not - all should face the music.
 

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If everyone in a room - lets say hundreds of people - murders someone...being "everyone did it", does that make it ok?

I couldn't care less who is using performance enhancing drugs or not - all should face the music.

I could not agree more. My only point is that it appears that only the hitters who have "bulked up" are feeling the wrath of the public and the press. Pitchers using for "recovery" are not getting equal treatment.
 

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I certainly don't condone drug use.

But memo to everyone: The pitchers are doing performance enhancing drugs too (in fact maybe in higher numbers than position players)! Unfortunately, it seems everyone is.

I am a year younger than Roger Clemens and I know how my body has changed over the last 10 years. I have no evidence, but I firmly believe that he is doing something that is not "normal" to sustain his performance as well. You can throw the Big Unit in there as well...it's just not normal for guys in their mid 40s to be dominating baseball with power.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't some the games greatest players play at a very high level in their late 30's? With todays technology and knowledge of the human body, is it that hard to believe that they can be doing that without performance enhancers? Satchel Paige didn't join MLB until he was 42.
 

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Ump's Eye View was discussing the HOF and Big Mac not getting in last night. They think eventually the steriod era guys will get in because time heals all wounds and people will eventually find out that during that time frame a lot more people than you think did steriods and they just happen to be the best players during a time where lots of players used them. It doesn't make it right to use them still but at least now MLB is not sweeping the issue under the rug as much as they used to.

Also, the question of the night was name the 5 players who have the most hits since 1997. You probably can guess 3 or 4 fairly easily but the 5th one really surprised me. This is total hits during this time period so I'll give you a hint that Pujols and Ichiro are not 2 of them as they weren't playing back in 1997 so they didn't get as many AB's as these other guys.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't some the games greatest players play at a very high level in their late 30's? With todays technology and knowledge of the human body, is it that hard to believe that they can be doing that without performance enhancers? Satchel Paige didn't join MLB until he was 42.

I didn't say that there were never older guys playing into their late 30s and 40s...there have always been some around.

The difference is that these guys in the past were clearly not as good as they had been in their 20s and early 30s by the time they got to their late 30s and early 40s. Even Satchel Paige (who I think actually pitched into his 50s) was still good but clearly not at the level he had been at as a younger man in the Negro Leagues...by all accounts I have read. And I believe he went from being a power pitcher to being a junk baller as he aged.

However, today, some of these guys are actually having "career" type years in their late 30s and early 40s. I think Clemens had the lowest ERA of his career during the 2005 season (although I am not certain of that)...at the age of 43 (I believe)...while still being a "power pitcher".

All I am saying, is that I'm a couple years younger than Clemens and believe me that your body does begin to deteriorate as you get to the late 30s and early 40s. What is going on is not natural and I fear the "technology and knowledge of the human body" you speak of is nothing more than performance enhancing drugs!
 

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Also, the question of the night was name the 5 players who have the most hits since 1997. You probably can guess 3 or 4 fairly easily but the 5th one really surprised me. This is total hits during this time period so I'll give you a hint that Pujols and Ichiro are not 2 of them as they weren't playing back in 1997 so they didn't get as many AB's as these other guys.

Anybody care to take a shot at this question? I know the answer but I want to see how many of you baseball fans can answer or come close.
 

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Anybody care to take a shot at this question? I know the answer but I want to see how many of you baseball fans can answer or come close.

Not a lot of players playing now were playing in 1997...

Hmm...is Biggio in there? Is he the surprise?
 

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I do see ColoradoClone's point...a nifty one in fact. Controversy does bring attention.

Is this the type of attention "America's Pastime" wants though?
Let's face it- baseball is no longer America's pastime- it lost that battle to football a while ago. They just won't admit it. Baseball is now America's daytime soaps.
 

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