Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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Its also how the world works. I would be disappointied if pollard didnt have multiple candidates he was reaching out to. None of this stuff is set in stone yet. It is entirely feasible that some donors are willing to pay freds buyout, some are willing to pay for TJ, and that there are behind the scenes conversations happening with all parties to find a deal that works.
A death by a thousand paper cuts, although there’s some tangible ones that have been mentioned before.
The best way to summarize it is high major basketball programs are very demanding, often with successful head coaches with tremendous power within the athletic department and greater university community, and the AD nearly answering to them. That aspect plus Fred, the Mayor, is going to lead to disagreements here.
Budget constraints, staffing, disciplinary, etc. Not why Fred left, but it could be why he doesn’t return.
What I’m hearing..
Any coach who can have a team handle the basics would be an improvement. Rebounding, movement on offense, defensive awareness, and ball handling skills would be nice.
What I’m hearing..
No inside info, just reacting to your post. I'm sure there are going to be egos involved from both sides in this equation. JP would surely have to give some, but this is a great example of where Fred needs to mature as a coach - discipline, or lack thereof, appeared to be a big reason why Fred's final ISU team was starting to come apart at the seams at the end of the year. It's also a key part of rebounding & defense - something Fred would need to add to the repertoire to really rise higher (from where ISU was when he left). Don't know what the facts are re: at least one assistant at the time, but if JP believes someone is underhanded/sleazy, he certainly needs to push Fred on that front.
There was a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes of that team that caused a lot of what happened on the court. That stuff going on was mostly due to 1 or 2 players (I'm not naming names). Fred allowed too much and it ended up hurting the team in the end.
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Completely agree when it comes to recruiting top talent. I believe the hope is that the new coach will not completely miss on all the other recruits. If so, that's how future recruiting could be "head and shoulders" better than Prohm's. You are 100% correct on recruiting and landing top talent, I would actually expect a fall off in that area under a new coach.
This guy gets it. Lots of sour grapes from him leading before. Dwelling on hurt from the past is no way to move forward.
He struck gold with Halliburton and THT for sure. Daniyal Robinson ties probably helped there. None of the southern guys he’s been after have really planned out. Tough to bring kids from the south to play in Iowa. Overall I don’t think recruiting has been as good under Prohm as some here believe.
Also with recruits it’s not just about stars, also have to think about how they are going to fit in the system and whether they will be a team player. Is being a winner more important or just getting to the NBA?
Prohm has the ability to get top 50 guys. Something that we have never done consistently. But his ability to properly identify quality three star guys is bad. Almost none of those have done anything for the program.
You can win landing only top 50 guys if your Kansas and you get 3 per year. We get one every year and 4 guys that may never see the court to go along with them. Its not good enough.
Man, I love coaching searches. The absolute crazy amount of theories and changes along the way make it fun. Whether the 'insider' info is ultimately true or not (and whose info is true for that matter), I do appreciate the nuggets, as (again) it makes it fun and a nice distraction.
Hoiberg kind of cracked this code...
-- build free-flowing offense that generates lots of open jump shots
-- recruit guys who make jump shots, regardless of their other basketball skills
= instant powerhouse offense.
Other teams have put more emphasis on these now, too, though, so Fred has a barer cupboard to work with rather than undervalued assets that fit into his system. Nebraska is hard to recruit to, too, obviously.
