#6 South Florida-I State recruiting virtually identical..

ketelmeister

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Checking Rivals.com, South Florida and Iowa State's recruiting ranking is virtually identical since 2004. The question is, how are they ranked #6? Same goes with Boise State and many other successful schools. It seems to me, ranking doesn't mean much, it's what you know about the players you recruit, how they fit your system and how you develope them. I hope Coach Chizik is the man to do the same for Iowa State.I believe he is. Point is: IT CAN BE DONE.
 

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Rankings tend to be a little skewd by the region a player is in. How many times has Iowa State gotten a 2 star out of Texas or Florida that basically walked into camp and earned a position? More than a couple, that is for sure. There are a lot more good players in Florida than Iowa, and they are playing against better players than the guys in Iowa. Why do you think every team has coaches spending tons of time recruiting Texas and Florida?
 

darts180

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The answer is OBVIOUS. Now if people can be honest with themselves, or not, is another question.
 

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crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater
 

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They were not ranked until Dan Mac got there. So if I was Danny I would take full credit.

Oh yeah and Morningside almost beat us a few years ago So he did a good job as a coordinator. Wait he was not a basketball coach. That ruins that logic.

Oh yea and one other thing. Like the poster above said. "we are Iowa State and they are not."
 

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crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater


It shows that good coaches are good coaches. And, unfortunately for Iowa State, good coaches, with no support, can't win. Conversely, bad coaches can have every team in his division become bad all at once, get more support than any coach ever at Iowa State, and still never win a big game (besides Iowa of course).
 

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They were not ranked until Dan Mac got there. So if I was Danny I would take full credit.

Oh yeah and Morningside almost beat us a few years ago So he did a good job as a coordinator. Wait he was not a basketball coach. That ruins that logic.

Oh yea and one other thing. Like the poster above said. "we are Iowa State and they are not."

I thought they finished last year ranked... I could be wrong...

When Levitt started at USF the first year was practice only... Then they were non scholly D-1 (Drake), then 1-AA (UNI), then I beleive they were in the Sun Belt before joining the big east...
 

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Recruiting grades/stars don't mean crap. Look at the "great" class Iowa had in 05 and how awful they are now.

Talented recruits are nice, but it's all about developing them once they are on campus. If you are playing on a D1 team you have talent-it's the coaches that can develop talented players that have success
 

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crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater


huh, never knew that. Crazy stuff. Mside has usually been pretty good.
 

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crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

Dude, you need to get your facts straight. Leavitt had stops between Morningside and USF. In fact, he was a grad asst at Iowa for a year. There he met Bill Snyder. Snyder got the job at K-State and took Leavitt with him. Leavitt was involved in getting the moribund K-State program to national prominence. USF decided to add a FB program in the mid 90s and they decided to hire Leavitt because he had experience in program building with Snyder at K-State. That is the chronology of events.

PS: All of these recruiting "rankings" are developed by a bunch of "jock sniffers" that couldn't play themselves and are, frankly, not really worth much.
 

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they have a couple four stars in there and a five star running back, not sure where they are all at on the depth chart though. We have better recruits than kentucky right now though and they are in the top 10
 

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Dude, you need to get your facts straight. Leavitt had stops between Morningside and USF. In fact, he was a grad asst at Iowa for a year. There he met Bill Snyder. Snyder got the job at K-State and took Leavitt with him. Leavitt was involved in getting the moribund K-State program to national prominence. USF decided to add a FB program in the mid 90s and they decided to hire Leavitt because he had experience in program building with Snyder at K-State. That is the chronology of events.

PS: All of these recruiting "rankings" are developed by a bunch of "jock sniffers" that couldn't play themselves and are, frankly, not really worth much.

dude, i never said that he didn't have stops in between. just making note that he was an assistant at morningside right here in iowa. but have a cookie on me for pointing out your superior knowledge of everyone else. you rock!!!
 

ISUFan22

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Your post did read as such to lead a person to believe Leavitt went directly from Morningside to USF. I can't interpret it any other way.

Clearly neither could anyone else, except someone that knew the history.
 

CYVADER

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Your post did read as such to lead a person to believe Leavitt went directly from Morningside to USF. I can't interpret it any other way.

Clearly neither could anyone else, except someone that knew the history.

lucky for you my wife made more then 1 cookie. here ya go. you rock!!!
 

CloneAggie

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crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

That is crazy. It's also crazy that our own coach (Gene Chizik) was a grad assistant at Clemson before coming here. Not even the head coach, just a grad assistant. Of outside linebackers no less. Amazing!!!!